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Bonus Video! More Queer Disney Characters, the Barrymore/Evil Queen Connection, and "Daughters of Lesbia"

🕑 Added 2021-06-26 21:24:31 +0000 UTC

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Marcus Kaeso

Oh it's Extremely Gay, unless you ask Disney...

Matt Baume

Would you believe I haven't seen it yet? Been chugging away on projects & research I haven't caught up! But from what I hear it's extremely gay. Looking forward to actually sitting down with it ... someday.

Marcus Kaeso

Speaking of Disney, do you have any thoughts on the queer-coding in Luca?

Dan Maloney

There was another aspect to Disney films where characters were not queer-coded at all, but which kept me watching a lot of Disney fare when I was young. In the 50s, when shirtless male characters were few and far between, I believed then that the surest bet for a boy or young man to take off his shirt was in a Disney production. The original Mickey Mouse Club included an episode of a serial each day. The first of these was "Spin and Marty" about two boys at a summer camp - one wealthy, one not - who begin as enemies and end as friends. There were an extraordinary number of these episodes that took place at the old swimming hole or other venues where a boy might shed his shirt - and did. Spin, played by Tim Considine was the first movie character on whom I developed a crush (I was his age at the time). This was one of those early adolescent crushes that are so filled with yearning that it was almost physically painful. I'd do anything not to miss an episode and once, when my Dad prevented me from watching one (the one about the bees) I cried, which I was WAY too old to do by then. Another example I can think of was "The Light in the Forest" - a theater release in 1958 starring the insanely beautiful young actor James MacArthur. Shirtless throughout. I always felt if I wanted young, beautiful, male and shirtless, Disney was my best bet. I never met anyone who noticed this - or maybe just a few examples made me think it was more common than it was - but during my adolescence I believed this and would often choose Disney over films that were way more exciting and full of action.

Matt Baume

Ohhhh you figured it out! That's definitely it, you can see the big witchy eyes around 26:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiUMx7_s5Kg

Matt Baume

I'm definitely going to give that novel a mention!

James Polk

Oooo, excited for the new DS9 vid! That was the lockdown jam—I’ve taken to reading the supplemental non-canon books, including Andrew Robinson’s novel expanding on Garak’s backstory and actions in ravaged Cardassia.

Lin Kibblemom

I just checked IMDB and John Barrymore was in the 1920 silent version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, so the film maker was correct that JB as that character could have been the inspiration for the Evil Queen. Also I' m surprised you didn't mention Ferdinand the Bull in your discussion of queer coded Disney characters. Like the Reluctant Dragon, he's one of the sweetest Disney cartoon characters. Also, it's great to learn how they did the transformation scene in the sound version of Dr. Jekyll. I wonder how Barrymore did it in his version?

Matt Baume

Oh yes Gonzo has a love-song duet with Gene Kelly! https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-video-more-52967403

QueBijoux

Another fun, informative video! Very much looking forward to your take on Garak and Bashir from DS9. Loved that relationship.

Joshua Marchant

Gonzo is the immediate thought that jumps to mind thinking about queer-coded Muppets. Between his non-traditional attraction to chickens and his apparent love for public punishment (listen to him crying out in ecstasy as his arms are being stretched). Cannot wait for the Garak/Bashir video!!