Gottem
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Livy N
As a former gifted student, this cuts deep
Leak
That's one heck of an isekai origin story... D:
Opus the Poet
"Just nuts" means there haven't been enough people like you to give your condition a name.
Opus the Poet
Many horny Roman soldiers also had a hand in the mix.
Charles Hirst
Almost everyone I know who is happy with their life now has had a major reset at some time in the past (the earlier, the better). Mine was 60-odd years ago.
Opus the Poet
Another brain-damaged Patron! We should make a club.
enchantedsleeper
Isn't that what academia is? xD
Sean Kinlin
Willow pillow.
Clifton Royston
It took me until my 50s to realize that I was dealing with ADHD, and I wasn't just nuts.
Opus the Poet
Nope, I changed schools 16 time by 9th grade. I didn't get to stay in the good schools, but on the plus side I didn't have to stay in the really bad schools. About the truck, that was the third one to hit me and the first time I got hurt enough to transport. Long story short a DUI took umbrage at my bike existing on the same street he was driving on and when I didn't bunnyhop over the curb onto the sidewalk that wouldn't exist for another decade he pulled a U-turn to get on my side of the median and hit me at an estimated 60 MPH (about 100 KPH) destroying the truck and temporarily killing me. As the EMTs were getting me ready for the body bag, because they could see how far away the initial impact was and I had no detectable pulse or respiration, so the first thing they did was get a bag for my remains. It wasn't until I complained about the fact I had broken the upper part of my femur (the only thing I could feel, I missed the other 3 broken bones and the gigantic hole opposite where the truck hit me splattering chunks out, and also all the missing skin on other parts of my body) that they knew I wasn't dead yet. By that point the swelling around my optic nerves had made me temporarily blind so when I regained consciousness in the ambulance it didn't occur to me that they didn't have the lights off. Also I can actually talk and make sense even when I'm unconscious. I gave the wrong answers to every question police asked me about where I lived, what my phone number was, if I was married... I told them the address I was living at when I was in HS 25 years prior, my parent's phone number from a different state than either the HS address or where I was living then (and now) and the second time I regained consciousness I was in the middle of making a joke about getting the number of the truck because it was too late in the evening to be a bus that hit me. I spent 2 weeks in hospital, many months in and out of rehab, had to learn how to ride a bike again, and was riding metric centuries (100 km, about 65 miles) 11 months after the wreck.
Sarah Buisson
I'm from a family of child prodigue. Its kinda scarry how it's true. Growing up I was the black sheep and cautionary tale: if all of us are genius why only she had average grade? We are all rised the same, Something must being wrong with her . Well, anyway they all end up either choose prestigious but poor choice college study, or burn out, or discover they couldn't function outside of school , like, at all. All of they struggle, like, a LOT Meanwhile I end up getting a good diploma, a good career. I have a life a little better than average , aka I could go to vacation and have a beautiful condo... Which make them feel even badder about the few think they got. And now the comparaison inverse, which make everything zvenmore shitter: even with average grade xxxx end up with a good paying job and you could even find a living wage with your prestigious literacy degree? What is wrong with you?
Dan Martinez
It almost worries me how easily Jeph can make me fall in love with a character over the course just a few pages. For a while, Iris seemed like background comic relief β the fundamentally unflappable cynic. Now she's very much something else.
Victor Stevko
Wow.
David Paul
Meh, see how the night goes π
Auros Harman
There are definitely people who identify as ace because they don't particularly want to _have sex with a partner_, but they still do feel some kind of arousal or find stuff hot, and may enjoy masturbation. Brun's descriptions of finding male bodies arousing, but being pretty indifferent to the partnered sex she's tried at least _could_ match up with something like that.
Joe
first time I ever felt the "I feel seen" thing. I was dead last in my class junior year. I graduated. doesn't matter where in the class. I. got. a. degree. & then slightly less than ten years later got a couple masters. I found a way. I met one of my classmates years later. he hadn't found a way.
Lucas Werkmeister
in which Liz submits to the mortifying ordeal of being known
Lucas Werkmeister
Iris is into all kinds of knife fights, physical and metaphorical.
Captain Button
Is a "field of mutual understanding" a conservative force field? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_force
Captain Button
Not sure about 'turning her on again'...
Miyaa
English: the language developed by drunk vikings, french, and even a loopy Latin guy who is also drunk.
Mitsuki Ayane
yeah, I think a Willow nap would help her. ~<3
RadiusUlna
Aw Lizπ
Halloween Jack
Yes, although I only saw the movie (but Cronenberg, so).
Dan Weiss
A well matched pair. And a not unbelievable situation. That genius becomes your identity.
Riin Gill
Or you do really well in school, graduate, and realize the only skills you have are doing schoolwork, and no one will pay you to do that.
allanfranta
True!
Captain Button
When is Trashfire Lesbians next album coming out?
Carrie
π« I can relate and have acquired various types of brain damage so if you want to talk let me know.
alphanor
If it is we'll find out later.
Matt Wolber
insert Meet The Grahams reference here
allanfranta
Is that Chekhov's grill behind them?
allanfranta
Did they slam on the brakes when you were on the hood? That's what happened both times to me.
Stephen Wells
Iris always smells slightly of burning insulation due to her constant fuming and smouldering :)
legobil
She merely showed how she could destroy her.
legobil
Liz panel 6: 3|
legobil
Ouch. Liz got hit right in them feeeeelz.
Holly Nelson
Oooh yeah, nothing like undiagnosed ADHD to set you up for a succession of inexplicable failures. Done there, been that.
David Paul
Liz may not continue on the same course as she expected, but in time she will find herself, what she wants and where she needs to be. Especially with Marten and Claire supporting her.
Duncan
Made me laugh
David Paul
Nah, Iris was just going through some common troubleshooting steps to help identify and attempt to resolve the error code in the gremlin.
Charles Hirst
How often have you orked a cow? (Beware the shifting hyphen - those of us with large fingers or small keyboards suffer from them. )
Stephen Wells
Also headpats from Liz :)
Stephen Wells
Well, we've seen that Iris knows two ways she could destroy Liz, and chose not to. Maybe this is at least a detente. They should sleep with Willow about it.
Stephen Wells
This week of strips has been the conversational equivalent of one of the knife fights from Dune. Incredible work from Jeph.
Lucy Glorius
Wow, so similar - I just got my MSIS a year later.
Tabby
Nature is healing π (Trashfire lesbians ftw!)
Carl Fink
I've gotten stuff wrong about this before, but if Brun was ace, would she have thought the idea of Elliot being with Clinton was hot? She's definitely looking to be on the spectrum, and sexuality is (I have been told) complicated for people with autism.
Clifton Royston
I am not sure whether Iris is trying to help Liz, or trying to destroy her, or merely passing on her observations, or just making conversation. But damn, I've been there too, as apparently a lot of your readers have. So thanks.
Rob Scott
Isnβt Gottem the place where Buttman lives?
Auros Harman
I believe you mean Brunhilde, not Bronwyn? https://questionablecontent.fandom.com/wiki/Brun_Khoury I don't think the comic has made Brun and Mille's relationship "official", and it's possible Brun is ace anyhow, but they clearly have established a very close friendship. The Brun "I AM VERY GOOD AT MY JOB" comic may be my favorite QC ever. Brun is my spirit animal. https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3215
Snippytorque
This comic strip here means a lot to me. The feeling of "why can't I just get back on track" is so familiar to me, and it was awful and isolating to have people around me give advice that wouldn't work, or be confused that someone so smart would be struggling so much. I feel less alone now, thanks to Iris. To Jeph: you go above and beyond with inclusivity, and I thank you so much for that.
Yelling Bird
I assure you, I am not Jeph.
Ye Olde Phart
To syphon off that alarming amount of mood here, let me note that you can fix that crack-spreading just with better fitting pants. Especially on construction sites, fellow cow-orkers and passersby will quite appreciate it. . . . . . . . . . In other notes: Damn Iris, what a well-phrased on-the-point battery of ICBMs to launch on unsuspecting targets. Not bad for a grumpy AI.
enchantedsleeper
It's empathy with an afterburn xD
enchantedsleeper
@SilverbackRon Yeah, on a recent re-read I really felt like Jeph had been building to something specific with that story arc, and then I think it just got lost in the shuffle? I'm not going to make any assumptions about where Millefeuille and Brun might be at, but I hope we get to see them pick up where they left off. (It's only been a couple of months, anyway x3)
enchantedsleeper
"And none of them got themselves back together and turned things around?" "No." (Implication = no, they did not) "And none of them got themselves back together and turned things around?" "Yes." - Technically this would be Iris confirming what Liz has feared, but it also comes off like a contradiction. Yes they did or no they didn't? xD It's one of those occasions where both "yes" and "no" could be used to mean the same thing. Ah, English.
Munchkin Threats
I like to call that being droned because I clearly have no pilot when I get there. XD
Logan Nix
Congrats on being so close to that milestone! Getting to where you are now is a helluva achievement already, best of luck to ya the rest of the way!
enchantedsleeper
This conversation never happened, and she'll flat out deny it if anyone asks x3 Liz is probably too drunkstoned to remember, anyway.
SilverbackRon
Iris Gets You. And apparently me too.
enchantedsleeper
I love BOTH of those pages/scenes so much. (Also, I wanna teach my kids the same comeback just in case xD)
enchantedsleeper
Social link level up?
enchantedsleeper
Congrats on your upcoming graduation ππππ
enchantedsleeper
I LOVE THIS So not what I was expecting from this party but I'm SO here for it
SilverbackRon
Sorry for the shitty things you have had to go through, I am glad you are persevering. MLIS? Wow did you find the right place here. π
Logan Nix
I stared at this comment in shock for longer than I'd like to admit before realizing the "Yelling Bird" patreon user might be an actual person doing a bit (until you're Not doing the bit) rather than a joke account set up by Jeph like I'd always assumed. Anyway, offering hugs now π«
Logan Nix
I think it reads well enough at a glance to not be confusing, but YMMV with double negatives
Logan Nix
@SilverbackRon, GOD SAME. Every time the POV switches I pray that we get a glimpse of Millefeuille and Bronwyn, they were some of my favorites </3
Logan Nix
He goes celibate shortly thereafter π
Logan Nix
@Ursus Ridens, It's certainly empathy, just of the cognitive ("i understand what you're feeling") kind rather than the affective ("I feel what you're feeling") kind. Compassion ("I care about what you're feeling") is another beast entirely, and I have no idea if Iris is on that or not π
SilverbackRon
No, I think AI/Human compatibility is kind of the cornerstone of QC.
SilverbackRon
I miss Millefeuille. One of the dangers of having such a large cast, there is always someone we haven't seen in a year or more.
Charlotte Grubbs
I was exactly like Liz at 19. Not a super genius, but a smart person who breezed through high school and freshman year only to hit a brick wall sophomore year due to a combo of depression, undiagnosed ADHD, and sexual assault. I almost flunked out and eventually took a year off before finally graduating, and scrapped plans to go to grad school. Did I eventually get myself back together and turn things around? Well, I'm 34 now, and I would still describe myself as a "work in progress." You never really get the shiny optimism and potential of youth back. You do get hard-earned wisdom and learn to persevere. And hey, I'm one semester away from graduating with my MLIS.
Fart Captor
The trashfire lesbians are bondingβ¦ π₯Ή
Daniel S
Jeph I did not come here to get roasted.
Markus Schaber
I'm not sure how fast AI would evolve. Neither would evolution necessarily eliminate empathy.
Bagge
Hedpats for Liz
Captain Button
Didn't JG Ballard write a book about that?
Halloween Jack
Also, I felt seen as well. "Spreading crack in the foundation" covers so much.
Halloween Jack
This is the beginning of a beautiful relationship. Or a beautiful car crash. Or both.
Yelling Bird
I'm afraid to find out.
Elf Sternberg
Jesus, Iris, I feel so called out now it hurts.
Ben R
We are all both of them...and many, many others.
BookBeard
Shorter, but no less brutal. https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3951
Miyaa
Ironically, terrible.
Miyaa
Come to think of it, Pintsize hasnβt been the same since.
nullpotato
What a wild ride. Did the brain damage get you average?
Uniquitous
Oh wow. Achievement unlocked. By whom, I can't say.
Brad
Lots of Iris development in this latest series. She is truly lovely under that shell.
William Cole
Like an iris, of course!
Ursus Ridens
Can't find the number, but there was the time when Brun completely pwned her tormentors in high school.
Ursus Ridens
I didn't read that as empathy, but as a monster burn.
Ursus Ridens
Higher-capacity coolant pump.
Holly Nelson
Ah, Iris. A good person who has seen so many people immersed in failures and disappointment thatβs sheβs permanently wary of optimism. -pat pat pat- (She probably reads history too. That wouldnβt help at all, at all.)
BookBeard
How does she smell?
BookBeard
Millefeuille has thus far not been shown in any verified romantic relationship, despite the popular headcanon.
Jathby Dredas
Took a long time to come back from this. Accepting myself as just a person, and becoming comfortable with merely "OK" work helped a lot.
Captain Button
Will that void the warranty?
BookBeard
I don't see Yay there, but they are pretty stealthy. Are they hiding behind the grill?
BookBeard
Wow, that was unexpectedly insightful. Anyone else getting flashbacks to this one? I mean in terms of the impromptu psychoanalysis, albeit with very different intent. https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3763
Drazi
Well, ouch. Why must you call out us damaged smart people like this?
Onyx
Awww to both of them
Bill Silvia
Iris is listening like a linguist and not like a mathematician.
Bill Silvia
It is best to plan for a full moon for this stage.
Yelling Bird
I grew up feeling stupid because everyone around me (teachers included) pounded it into my head all through grade school and high school. Then I went to college and I was an asshole because I reflexively came at people the way people back home had always come at me. I had taken them back home to be normal because the way they had treated me was all I'd ever known. Then after some testing it turned out I was a genius (like documented) and it was everyone back home that were stupid. So then I was an insufferable prick for a while because I felt superior, and I AM superior to those that caused all this bullshit, but I've come to find out that I'm much closer to normal than I had ever dreamed. Of course, this was before I flatlined that time and got some minor brain damage, but hey...
Carl Fink
You mean aside from Millefeuille, right?
PsychOut
I love all the new characters, I love this storyline
Constantine Hannaher
I can almost see "no, none of them did" and "yes, some of them did" as conversational replies.
Thunder
Maxim 70: Failure isn't an option, it's a requirement. The option is whether or not failure is the last thing you do.
Opus the Poet
I feel this one in my soul, literally. I was like Liz before the depression set in and I had to drop out. It took me years to re-aim myself. And then I got hit with a truck...
Thomas Halpin
Oh heck! Iris is pretty great when she stops trying not to be.
Nathan Kinsey
I know that "there's no answer I can give that you won't spin to call yourself a failure" moment all too well. It's tricky to explain. People in that frame of mind usually aren't ready to hear it.
alphanor
It's a good place for both of them to start healing. Iris is trying to help Liz to get out of the deep well of depression she has ensconced herself in, and Liz is starting to help Iris break down the massive wall she has erected around herself for protection. Progress on both tasks is occurring, albeit slowly and gradually.
lilibat
ouch
Opus the Poet
Right now we only have one canonical girl/gynoroid relationship, there is lots of room for others. And Winslow is not in a romantic relationship with anyone, just the platonic relationship with Hannelore. We really don't have any human/android relationships in-comic other than that. I don't see Pintsize in any kind of relationship other than wacky.
Steve McSheffrey
Which ironically is something best done when drunk or high.
FreeReedz
Truly.
Jeremy
Awww, it is like seeing Kahneman and Tversky meeting for the first time, setting the foundation to rattle stolid branches of psychology.
Opus the Poet
Not Man-Bat...
Matt Donaldson
The saddest gotcha ever
Munchkin Threats
Iris is a good person. She just doesn't want to admit it
That Blair Guy
Wow. Did NOT see that coming. Well played Iris
Lightsabr2
Name's "Iris" not "Nostril"
Nicolas Demers
No no, she started the process of putting the gremlin back together. Or naming the flaw and letting the gremlin do it herself. Or something.
Michael Chui
This is why you shouldn't use negatives like Liz did.
Andrew
Iris: gremlin therapist
djellafine
Just realized Iris doesn't have a nose
Brent Ward
Shouldn't the outcomes for Iris answering Liz in Panel 4 be reversed? An answer in the affirmative would be the "terminal diagnosis". That being said, mood.
Rhyon Ingalls
So naturally, if Charisma is Iris's dump stat, she has pretty wicked Insight to compensate. Liz got READ
Rich Holmes
Bat-Like Man
Rich Holmes
The gremlin broke her.
Leaflemming
Speaking as someone who works with grad students, this is an exceptionally well observed strip.
Miyaa
βThat guy?β βNo Batguy!β
Carrie
ππ
PostRetroism
Liz just hit that point where she thinks "I don't want to be drunk and/or high anymore" and goes and stares at the city lights or stars or something similar.
Carrie
π€£ππ€£π
Elf0004
Oof, this one hit a little too close to home...
Dean Reilly
Home of Batguy.
Michael
How to handle failure is a lesson everyone has to learn if they want to be successful, I got a lot of hate for saying this when I was a teacher for a short while.
ValdVin
I yield the floor. That's really more of a Fart Captor or Yelling Bird question.
Derek Benson
This is very well-written
ValdVin
I-Ris-Boom! I-Ris-Boom!
Anthony Gaglianese
When two gremlins meet in a field of mutual understanding. It's a beautiful(and sappy) thing.
Alacrity Fitzhugh
I mean, an AI may start with a humanoid baseline, but would evolve past those limitations very fast, quickly becoming unrecognizable.
Graydon Armstrong
Aww, I think Iris cares!
Maria E.
With only one witness! And she'll probably deny everything.
Alacrity Fitzhugh
AI/Human empathy. An amazing (if almost unbelievable) thing.
Jenea Ylinen Fredrickson
She broke the gremlin!
Auros Harman
I am so here for the Irisboom friendship. (Or more if Jeph wants to take it that way, though I don't get that vibe off the comics so far.)
Tamara Macadam
haha woo
Miyaa
Next week: Steve goes clandestinely to the Snack Convention in Indianapolis to find out the secrets of Kelloggβs Special K.
Miyaa
Are you sure it was her virtual heart and not her actual butt?
Sean Kinlin
A trip to Gottem City.
Captain Button
Iris uses "Genius Crackup Syndrome"! It's supereffective!
Tabby
Yay head pats for Liz (she needed them)
Tannerbot
Oh iris, you big softy you.
Sean Kinlin
Iris has a nose for people like Liz. So to speak.
Captain Button
Poke 'em in the third eye!
Doc Gumby
My mind, it it blown. An empathetic Iris?!?
ValdVin
Her AI heart grew three sizes that day. (Well, the next day, after a trip to the fine technicians at Union Robotics.)