Post "DSS version 0.8.1 beta is released!" by "heazhan"

dark7000

hello everyone has a new update we are waiting thank you

stibkxket42

can you add 1. model collider setting 2. enter VR mode and better load model speed? i really like your program

OsgoliathGuy

Hope we get some news soon. It's easier to wait patiently for something if you know what it is and when it arrives.

Tom Man

@margazerab Unfortunately, I think your assessment was spot on. And whenever he will realize that and turn back could be a long process. As a retired Unity professional, this game beats all the AAA, illusion, etc for me. I love it so much so, I ripped the 0.71 exe, rebuilding it and making my own version instead. Insert some missing sounds and more animations, etc. Of course, to respect his work, I won't distribute it, but my horny ass surely can't wait...haha... You'd be surprised how many apps on the Appstore are complete spaghetti. So do what you will and I support your diligent work either way. Heazhan.

mohanadxmx

what happed to manami yoshikawa's games?'

Gunafook

When can we expect another version? Would love to see handcuffs and leg restraints

Irriden

Somehow i'm coming to realise a new legend is being born.

OsgoliathGuy

You can't build a castle on a foundation of sand. The dev stated in a previous blog that since he was new to coding the previous versions code structure was unstable and they wanted to start over and do a better job with the experience and knowledge they have gained. They seem to be confident with the new version and I don't see why they would go back to the previous one in which they feel they coded themselves into a corner. I understand wanting new content quicker, I really do. But patience is necessary. The dev feels like this new version has greater potential and if they succeed, we get an even better game to play with.

margazerab

Clearly, you won the internet with what you did. It works, it's stable, and it can be tweaked. Have fun, try, explore, experiment, and come back to the roots when it's clear you can't advance anymore. That's my advice, but of course you are the master-captain of your own ship. Do as you want, and I hope you'll have fun nonetheless, but I feel that you made it a chore by trying something new (it took you a lot of time and you seemed to struggle) and it feels that when you worked on your "baby" project before, you loved it so much. Allow yourself to feel that again. From an artist to an other.

margazerab

So.. As an artist, sometimes it's important to recognize when you're in a dead end and come back to a previous version to make it better. I think this is one of those times. You lost a lot by doing what you did here, and a lot of concepts were forgotten and those concept were great in your previous versions. Upgrading an engine doesn't mean change everything. You tried, but it is clear to me that you will lose a lot (and I mean a lot) of time just to try to bring back features that you already had before. So, It's time to cut the upgrade project and come back to your roots and to the original project. You didn't lose anything. All you did gave you a lot of experience and that experience is precious, you'll soon see why and how. But I feel, and it seems clear to me that a lot of people saw that here (please tell me if I'm wrong) that your attempt here is blinding you from your talent : you did a great, great job (not just "good", but great !) with your previous versions.

TwistedFunAlt

The camera needs to be smoother, it kind of fast and it's hard to visually see what happens

dark7000

hello I want the movements of the previous game and also know how to adjust how it moves like in the previous game and for the next update thank you

ジムコマンド

It would be great if custom models could support PMX format models and the like, allowing for even more fun.

reticeo

I think you're on a great way! The option of having the custom vrm import is great and has worked without problems for me thus far ! It's going to open a lot of new options for the game so I'm excited for the game to move forward with that feature at the core. I'm excited for where you'll take this! (At this moment, with the low framerate, the character spawning in and then slow-mo running at me head is like in a horror movie haha. Gave me a good laugh!)

reticeo

5) The new UI is very huge and in the way. I preferred the look of the 0.71 menu and also the more detailed info we had about the girls state beyond just oxygen and health 6) I'm assuming this is linked to the framerate issue, but the jump at this moment is way too high & floaty. (not a high priority issue) 7) The houses and props seem like very low priority items to be in the game before more pressing issues like more devices (or my personal favourites, the drowning options haha. I understand their inclusion will take a while but I am already excited for them. ) 8) At this point the animations have lost some of their excitement, but I am sure that is still to improve along the development!

reticeo

2) I preferred the way the camera handled in the previous version. I understand that in this version you are taking the perspective of a person so that restricts you to the POV view of a person of average height, but that keeps you from the properly looking at the characters from below or seeing them on the floor unless you're willing to constantly press the crouch button. (After writing this I just found out the Noclip Option comes very close to the previous camera so I'm grateful the option to switch between them exists!) 3) The curser being locked to the middle of the screen is very headache inducing when you want to i.e. use the drag feature. I want to be able to maneuver camera and pull the cursor separately from each other, as in 0.71 4) I miss the many sounds the girls made, I hope this will come back in the future. As of right now they're very quiet.

reticeo

Your game has come a long way! I am a big fan of where your game was at 0.71 so seeing a complete restart is unexpected but interesting. Unfortunately at the current time I am having massive performance issues / a lot of lag, which makes the game un-enjoyable. Overall here's my suggestions and I hope that they might help! 1) I think the map is oversized and too detailed for the start. Just the 'room' we spawn in is plenty big enough to spawn a lot of items & characters into and I'd consider it oversized already, but we have 9 times that space! I assume the polycount is pretty high and it's causing grief in the rendering process. I appreciate the good intention for the detailed surroundings, but I think that shouldn't come at the cost of performance. (Also I find the look of the realistic castle walls and the cute anime girls a little mismatched, but that's personal preference)

Tdi88

Great development so far, thank you, heazhan. Yet low FPS. In versions pre 0.3 and VRM Tester everything ran smooth while fullscreen. In later versions game required windowed mode to run smooth. Now it runs slow even windowed and in lowest resolution. Maybe an ultra low graphics setting can fix this.

TwistedFunAlt

I have to say I love it when they close their eyes while fainting and you can wake them by hanging them. I also love the fainting animation, which reminds me of the Pwese Uwu. 👉👈 It's my favorite.

TwistedFunAlt

Do you remember the video about training AI to hang? There are many animations they said, but for this version, they chose just a few that they liked so that the version could be rushed out, this is a rewrite of the game.

Rabbidinho

include drowning.

MegaGoGoMan

I will say I do like the character importer. I already had my OCs made in Vroid studio so it was cool to see them able to be in the game. Keep up the good work!

MMD DRWn

as for the animation,the animation is good but the animation in the import vrm version was better or like more realistic,by import vrm i mean the one released a couple of months ago

MMD DRWn

i set the graphic from ultra to high and it worked for me check if it works

Zenon

Progress, no matter how big or small, is good progress all the same. I'm happy with this release.

TwistedFunAlt

you can drag on a little before the device becomes unstable. It's okay if you delay stability of the rope and develop the features that existed in the previous version, and work on bugs and stability later.

TwistedFunAlt

I really hope this is purely for experimenting with custom vrm characters in your game. The animation is a bit lacking, could be more variations, right now it's very predictable and dull in a sense. All characters react in the same way and they can recover with easy if unsuspended before going to 0 health. Where they lie very predictably in the same way every time. I'm assuming all features will be readded, but as you have had to rewrite everything I understand there is time and testing before moving to the next stage in development. The keys are extremely awkward and you don't need to change L and J. Same with O and U which is now P and O. People like me who have written personal macros have to remap my keys, and my memory of how everything functions. As of right now it's really easy to accidentally assign the last character to a spawned object when having the menu open and choosing a new spawn, sometimes causing the game to crash. I'd like a more stable rope that...

TwistedFunAlt

There is something strange about this version, I'm using close to flagship components, capable of rendering 4k resolutions with ultra textures and still the animation is quite laggy and sluggish?

Sheogorath

yeah, I experiencing them too, they are stalls probably CPU/GPU syncs/barriers, maybe the shaders are trying to get informations from the render target, as depending on how I look the object color become a bit distorted

MMD DRWn

When i restarted it worked like it usually would without any lag,so i guess it was just some sort of prob with my lap

MMD DRWn

I played it and its good but it has some issues,bur its mostly on the gameplay and not on the animations or others so the problem is the simulation is lagging,i dont know why but i guess its due to the map,so in the previous version where the environment were just rooms or small areas,it didnt lag but during hunt mode it lagged probably due to the map size,and i am using laptop so maybe it cant handle the graphics,but i think the lagging problem will be solved if we can choose our environment like 0.7 beta. except these, all of the new features were worth the patience,particularly the import vrm feature. like me i think everyone who played are satisfied and supports you! Thanks for making this wonderful game!.

Irriden

In the long run 3rd-person model control would also be fun like with Kanako in v. 0.7.

Irriden

Considering game feedback i marked following issues: 1) In-game vrm choose menu necessary, gives a lot of trouble while system-interrupting 2) Character behaviours need to be added, following is good, but at least strolling around or something will be good in long run. 3) Force of animations would be nice to differ more vividly depending on char state(asphyxating, blacked out, almost dead, etc). 4) Some maps, especially water-containing can be made leveled or maze-like - would be fun as for me. Only 1st issue is of crucial importance. All the rest are really optional but would be nice to see.

OsgoliathGuy

my monitor is 165hz. And now that I played it again i can pinpoint it a bit more. it's not the game itself but the castle, the models and the placeable objects that look very stutter-y when flying around and looking at them during motion.

NoblePhantasm

Fps locked to 60? And where i can find working .vrm models?

ssjdsd

我注意到角色进入悬挂状态之后即使脚接触到地面也会失去氧气和生命值，能否对此进行修正？感谢作者的辛勤付出。

Sheogorath

you are probably experiencing microstutters, in this case unlocking FPS won't help at all. 60 fps should not feel choppy at all (unless you are playing a competitive game and you have a monitor above 60 hz refresh rate)

TwistedFunAlt

Now I am hoping the garrote device isn't removed forever because it's a "troublesome" device for custom characters. I hope they find a good way to adjust the sitting garrote with custom characters and height. It might take a another year to figure something out but I'm all in for it

TwistedFunAlt

Very interesting

HangingDream

Ok, I know what exactly causes the lag—it's the VRM model! When I'm looking at the sky, I have 60 FPS, but when I look at the model, it drops to 40 FPS. In full-screen mode, I only get 15 FPS. :(

arkadryan

Can I just say, this is a great achievement, I am thoroughly pleased by the progress you've made so far, we can even create our own models if we can't find anything specific (or even tweak the ones that already exist if we have permission to do so), I'm looking forward for what you can do in the future. Can't wait for the underwater update (not literally, but you get it, I hope).

Irriden

searcch vroid hub for decent models. There are some there. Google "VRM models" - it's usually 1st on the list.

云天明

继续加油宝贝

louis

加油我會繼續支持

OsgoliathGuy

nbidia 3070ti graphics and ryzen 9 6900 proccessor.

ShyasuEastern

The import function of the VRM model really works well, but only if I'm able to find the decent models. I was hoping you share the strangle options, but i notice that can be troublesome with the import VRM in place so can see why this would take longer to work with because every VRM models clearly comes in different size and length as you mentioned. As always, take your time and I look forward to your next update!

Aisuiちゃん

I'm glad you are sticking with this rebuild! It's looking great so far, I like being able to walk around with the characters and assign them to things rather than them being stuck to it. It makes it more immersive than before. This is a solid foundation and I'm confident you will be able to add to it and improve it as time goes on, just as you did with the old version. I'm looking forward to more updates! Keep up the good work, don't push yourself too hard.

Irriden

Even though it's a definite restart of the game, it's a real breakthrough. The main features are working, so move on and don't mess it up. We believe in you.

TwistedFunAlt

What are your computer specifications? Since you stated "choppy"

TwistedFunAlt

Ok I wonder how it performs on 7800x3d, 4080S and 64GB 6000Mhz ram. I'm not home, celebrating new years somewhere else. Would you be interested in a report how it performs on my system? What exactly is causing lag?

Napht074

The new beta is looking great, but is there a way to unlock the cursor without having to open a menu?

ppman

No CPR in this version?

HangingDream

I have laptop: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ Nvidia GeForce GTX 950M 64bit 16gb

MLmuw

🥰🥰

TwistedFunAlt

What computer specifications do you have?

TwistedFunAlt

The animation changes when the fps changes I think

OsgoliathGuy

The character model is a improvement over the previous version. I hope you add more models of this or better quality. What I think you should prioritize improving: 1. The animations: you already mentioned to be working on these so i won't add much more here. animations are very stiff and static. 2. The sounds: both characters and equipment should have appropriate sounds. It would be nice if characters made different sounds when different equipment is used. hanging, chocking, strangling and suffocation should all have different sounds. if you are planning on returning things like poison injection or electric chair it would be great if they had unique sounds. 3. The stability/performance/UI/: Currently the game seems to be locked at 60 fps but even that 60 fps is kinda choppy. would be nice if you could unlock the framerate and improve the performance of the game a bit. The ui is also a bit uncomfortable to use right now 4. more content. This is what gets people the most excited

Strngl

after seeing and trying the update results like that, is there a manual way to add new characters to the game in version 0.71? or maybe replace the 3d file of one of the default characters

Cmdr_Katze

Greeting! Last day of 2024

BlackFatt

Very cool game,hope cpr or other resus functions can return soon

AstarMilitarum

Finally...been waiting for almost a yar

HangingDream

Also, besides the huge frame drops and lag at 15 fps in full-screen mode and very low fps of 40-50 with a small screen, I noticed a bug where if you click on a model that is already hanging on a large gallows, you can place it on two or maybe even more loops! I really hope for optimization and better fps!

HangingDream

But Z - not effective variante for delete object!

dark7000

hi heazhan so the game is fine but seriously I like the previous version you should have worked on your advent version because there you will have some work but hey we will see the next update and please make sure that the character reacted better you had everything on your previous games finally continue and otherwise respect you man I know it's not easy to produce I'm counting on you to do things well go on continue

HangingDream

Also, VRM characters, even Kotori, can't enter houses!

HangingDream

When I spawn something and then press the spacebar multiple times, the button keeps getting pressed and spawns a bunch of identical objects. It's very annoying, and it's bad that there isn't a delete button yet, so I have to restart the world. Also, on Full HD settings, my FPS lags a LOT, and the model movements are very slow, and there’s no setting to increase them. The hands are very stiff, but I can still see your work, good job! I'll be waiting for the fixes! Thanks for your work!

beh123234

One of the vrm files I had would not load no matter what I tried

Roadkill

it good had 19 row of 5 play still play but slow

红酥酥

总结一下目前遇到的游玩bug或者说困难： 1. 按照作者的教程，将pmx文件转化为vrm，经常出现下半身无法活动的情况，有的时候看起来像是腿的动作匹配到背后的飘带了。 2. 光照异常，导入的模型会出现整个人物全部被光照渲染成黄白色的情况。 3. 人物的表情太难绑定了，没有用过blender的人完全不清楚哪个表情应该绑定到哪个对象上，（如果可能的话）能导入支持pmx这种更常见的角色文件格式就好了。游戏自带的人物都没有上面的问题

咸鱼

感谢你的中文更新日志，也有很多中国玩家喜欢你的游戏 :)

FitTax5060

Glad to see where things are moving along! Keep it up, you've always produced great work!

Dany Eule

realy cool ! just tried it. So here is what I found: I was unable to make the character enter the barn (cant lift their feet) 2. No phisics, once the girls are swinging, they are rock solid and can't be swayed arround by pulling or pushing. 3. Controls and everything work realy great! Cant wait for the restrains (there are currently none). Will there be diffrend noose materials too? greetings.

#elden_20

When I place a character on the gallows, the model somehow looks a bit smaller. Is it because part of their feet is sinking into the ground? Also, if a character's already on one gallows, trying to put them on another makes them twitch out. But hey, compared to the previous version, the changes are really significant! The UI, the scenes...I can see how much effort and passion the creator has poured into this. Mad respect! As for the hanging simulation, I’d personally love to see more intense struggles. But as someone who’s personally experienced hanging as a hobbyist, I gotta say some of the "pass out" reactions are more realistic than the previous version! Anyway, your work is seriously the most unique game I've ever seen. I absolutely love it! Looking forward to future updates!

Mamyukka

永远爱你

Akizuki Sakura

In regard to the character's gestures in the hanging, my suggestion as follows: When the character's arms are free, they will go through five stages: 1. trying to grab her neck in panic - 2. weakened struggle and difficult to lift the arms - 3. decorticate rigidity - 4. decerebrate rigidity (accompanied by cramps) - 5. going limp.

和人

精细度确实比以前好了，希望能看到以前的功能逐渐回归到新版的DSS里，谢谢你的付出。

jackmby

为什么我的vrm没法导入？

红酥酥

游戏效果很棒，但是有个导入角色方面的问题我没有头绪解决，向作者反馈一下：跟着作者的教程把pmx模型转换成vrm以后导入，人物的下半身姿势固定在初始状态了，腿部不能移动。是骨骼什么的有问题吗？因为我没有使用blender的经验，不知道如何解决这个问题，如果作者或者其他朋友能告诉我怎么操作的话非常感谢。（附上另一个我遇到的问题的解决方式：如果你的vrm模型导入游戏以后人物尺寸过大，可以在blender里面按s，然后用鼠标缩放人物大小，直到尺寸合适后再导出使用）

⠀

the custom avatar feature is really cool, good work :)

SwDeWoBa HE

It is worthy to donate for your cool game. Heazhan.

epicman33456

this cool m8

dark

Where do you download character?

eptrt

这个游戏真的很棒，加油！

Rabbidinho

Thanks you

Roadkill

it very cool but i think it abit big but still good. it cool how you input the vrm people.. looking forward to more

space224

I already bought this (sent some donation)! I successfully imported my character using VRM 0.0 format.

pppyogtuofyfiy

OK, I'll try this first

MelonKirbs

Nice! Thank you for releasing this version! Even though it's in an early state! Also don't worry, take all the time you need. No rush, and make sure to take care of yourselves. Even its awhile, we'll still be here to support you!