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How our Patreon works!
🕑 Added 2017-10-06 21:06:30 +0000 UTC Hello everybody and welcome to our Patreon!This is a list to describe everything that is happening in here, quite in details and to not leave anything at all up in the air or hidden from you.
Before you pledge, it's really important that you understand how we reward all of our Patrons and what you will receive at the start of your pledge and what will open up after one month of "safety check", so to speak.
Without further delay, let's get right into it!
1) Free Comics as you pledge
At the very beginning of your pledge, you will be able to enter a selection of starting chapters of our different sagas. For the lowest price of 2 Dollars, you will get 2 comics, for the highest of 25 the total will amount to 7!
This is what we offer to you:
- Armageddon's Quickie - Lucithia's Mercy (Tier 1)
- Succubi - First Taste (Tier 1)
- Giantess Spa - First Issue (Tier 2)
- Michael and Lucithia - Dual Femdom (Tier 2)
- Astrid - Prologue: Breakout (Tier 3)
- BfG - Episode 1: Power (Tier 3)
- Gynomorphs - Episode 1: Drone (Tier 4)
Once your pledge has gone through, you will be able to access them by clicking on the "Free Comics" tag in our home page, on the left, or by simply clicking HERE.
2) Dropbox rotating comics
After your first month of pledge, you will enter our very exclusive elite of people that will receive links to our Dropbox server, in which we publish our comics and offer old ones.
All of our links get sent on the 5th of each month. The only thing that is required is that your pledge is accepted and processed before that date, then nothing else is required to be done!
Comics will be 2 per month, rotating and changing constantly at the end of each period of time. One month, you may get Astrid 3 and BfG 2, the next Astrid 7 and BfG 1... It keeps changing and following a certain pattern, so pledges who stay will eventually get everything. The same thing goes with Giantess SPA and Dual Femdom or even for Quickies.
Added to that, we now have even Loyalty rewards for Pledges that decide to stick around, having no payments denied, and Discord challenges to get you even more comics. You can learn more about it here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/new-discord-and-17015075
3) 1 month and good pledge before access
Links to access the Dropbox server will not be sent straight away as you pledge, we require a little of "safety", so to speak...
Only after one month, and after confirming your pledge, you will be able to receive links to our Dropbox server, depending on which Tier you belong to.
Every Tier receives links for the ones that are below it too!
If your pledge gets not processed before we deliver them, you will not automatically receive a link and, if you fix your payment, you will have to contact us personally: we will be more than happy to provide you with the link right afterwards.
After 3 months of consecutive denied payment, you will be removed and permanently blocked from accessing our Patreon in the future.
4) How Dropbox will work
Every 5th of the month (day in which the billing cycle of Patreon ends), links will be sent to all eligible Patrons. This link will allow you to access the Dropbox folder for your Tier, where you will find the 2 Comics that are free to download for the current month.
After the month is gone, the folder link will expire and won't be able to access it any longer. If your payment is still valid and your pledge went through, you will receive a new one straight away, without any delay on the 5th.
5) New Comics
Every time we publish a new comic, it will have the absolute priority into the rotation, so you will be able to access it straight away. Comics will be only released at the beginning of the new month, never in between like it was now.
This gives us even more time to space out and you have something to look forward to! The only exception made to this rule is Tiers 4 and 5's Early Access perk, which allows them to obtain comics as soon as they are ready to be released!
You will always get to know before hand what is going to be up for next month on our Dropbox.
That is all folks.
If you have questions, feel free to ask us at anytime right here. We are sorry we had to come down to this, but you can blame the Russian pirates. Again, nothing is going to change for you good fellas... Nothing at all. You will still get everything you deserve for being so kind and supporting us fairly and honestly!
Cheers!
Lucifer and Lilith
Comments
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Nope, you just need to enter your Discord account in your profile settings, that will immediately send you you to join our server, where you will find your rewards ;)
KermIX
Just joined the 5$ Tier. Do I have to wait to be "accepted" before getting the gumroad code or do I get that earlier?
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Not for now, we have a special deal going on ;) so we'll send you a Dropbox link right away ;)
Yoshikage Kira
Just making sure, to access the Alpha Builds of your games, I must be subscribed for a month?
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Sent you a message
I just recently joined at the $10 donation level. How do i get discounts for the comics on Gumroad?
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Please read our rules in the two posts you can find in our homepage, right below the main picture.
How do I get access to dropbox?
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Absolutely correct. Patreon charges between the 1st and 5th of each month. Meanwhile, please enjoy your 6 free comics (being a Tier 3) and we invite you to join us on our discord channel for exclusive previews, fun contest to win even more stuff and just to have a good time with us and other fans!
Bowser
I just pledged and from what I understand will be charged another $10 on the first of May. Correct?
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
No problem, buddy. Enjoy.
Cancerboi
Thank youuuuu!!
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Especially with your background history, yes, you would. We will provide you with a link immediately!
Cancerboi
Um what if I was teir 2 for a many of months and then upgraded to teir 5 when would I get the drop box link for all previous comics?
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
We invite you to read again these rules, all is explained there. You are currently pledged as a Tier 4.
hayiwa
i have pledged for tier 4-5 succubi, i dont know how to get it.
peacewang
Just updates， Got up in mid-night 2:30 AM and updated to tier 5: ) I think I may made mistake with Pacific Standard Time and our country's time, my updates and pledge may belong to Jan instead of Feb... It's ok, just like to tell you I really like your works and arts, so please keep going and bring more for us in the future, no matter much or less, I will follow and support you always, thanks: )
peacewang
Understood，thank yoou:)
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Yes, Tier 3 receives 6 comics per month and in time you'd be able to get everything. No about the 75 dollars pledge, you would have to wait until the 5th of February anyway, when the cycle of payment gets concluded. Pledge to Tier 5 BEFORE that day and you'll get the link for Tier 5 ;)
peacewang
And by the way, since there is only one week to Feb, If I pledged 75$ now, and I definitely will follow you and pledge continuely in the future mostly likely tier 3 since I don't want to miss your new work (Looking forward for more and more new works I will liked, especially the final goal:), actually I try to registerd patreon and paypal only because you), could I get the link today? Really want to see more:) Thanks
peacewang
Thank you very much. I will think about it. And in my understanding,is that means tier 3 can get 6 comics per comics (from tier1，2，3）, right? and is that means tier 3 could see all comics in a time's manner?
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Hello there again. Yes, all of your replies are coming through and I'd suggest that you group them all up ;) But anyway, now that you pledged, if you upgrade (let's say next month), to Tier 5, you will get the Dropbox link. Each Tier can download the previous Tiers' comics for free. Tier 4 doesn't have specific comics, they get special Early access to download as soon as we are done making comics instead of having to wait until the beginning of the month. Plus, they have polls to decide what gets done next. Lastly, if you want to have all our comics in one go, yes, you need to be Tier 5.
peacewang
Sorry for more questions， because I'm not sure if my reply to you is successful or not... 1/Shall I need to be tier5 for 2 months continuely，if I want to have dropbox folder to download all comics? 2/ If I'm tier4, howmany comics I could have per month, only 2, or 2 from tier 2, 2 from tier 3 and 2 from tier4? Thank you:) (Now is 2:19 in the morning in my country, and I just read those 3 free comic, they are really extremely good and exciting, I like it, and really want to see more)
peacewang
Now is 2:19 in the morning in my country, and I just read those 3 free comic, they are really extremely good and exciting, I like it, and really want to see more:)
peacewang
Does that mean I need to be tier5 for 2 months continuely，if I want to have dropbox folder to download all comics? Thanks
peacewang
Does that mean I need to be tier5 for 2 months continuely，before I could have dropbox folder to download all comics? Thanks?
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Loyality rewards are being thought about ;)
peacewang
like if someone continue for 3 month, then may rewards, continue 6 month, maybe more rewards:)
peacewang
I just start my tir3, I fully understand and support your decision, and wish you can continue your work, because I realy like what you bring to us, those pictures, comics and game (damn, I really expect you final goal!) . It's a pity that only 2 comics updates per month and you have so many great comics, it will keep me long time to wait untill go through all your works... In my understanding, the only way is Tir 5, however, it's a little bit hard for me... Could you please consider some other way or pacakges to speed up, and let us can read more your brilliant comics? :)
Johnny Bravo
I had pledged since June but had to cancel since I was laid off. I'll pledge again when I can.
Thanks i now understand how this works keep up the great work
Oda
It's really sad that happened, do not let it discourage your work. I'm sure most will continue to support ^_^
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
I agree with you that art should be enjoyed by everyone... But we are not asking for vertiginous prices for our comics... We have stuff that starts with just 6 dollars and others that goes up to 12 if there's over 65 pages of deeply thought stories and heavy duty renders. We will never stop piracy, we know that very well... But at least we can try to do something about slowing it down as much as we can.
AmericanWonton
Man, this sucks my dude and dudeettee. :(. I'm of the opinion that everyone should enjoy art BUT that the artists should take care of them, first hand. You two work hard on this shit and it shows. I hope neither of you feel any guilt for doing this, it's a shitty situation to be in.
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
We will see. Hopefully this will help reduce the thieves ;)
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Lucifer: Yes, I can see you have 20 $ already succesfully pledged. I will send you the link right now to access the Tier 3 folder and below.
michael
I pledged tier 3 on the last month, but haven't got the links. Hope to watch Astrid Chapter 7 soon
Someone
As a non-patreon I am very happy to see changes. I've seen your work posted on sites and always avoided them. I hope you both have no issues in the future <3
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Yeah, there's the Charge up front option, which we have activated... We thought it would stop people, but they don't care. They pay those 10 dollars, grab everything and leave right away. Thank you very much for the suggestion, we will certainly take it into consideration!
Redfiredog
I've used similar methods for similar reasons. I know Patreon has options now to not allow downloads until accounts are verified (and charged), but I've also heard those limitations don't go far enough. I will say, as another creator, that people like to have instant gratification. Having it so subscribers can at least download something right away is helpful. Leaving a few comics on Patreon, maybe the first part of several ongoing series or something, might be a good idea.
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
My good friend, believe me... I (Lucifer) am as sad as no one else. I had a plan, to give my Patrons constant free stuff... And it had to come down to this in order to keep order of things. Well... It's 150 dollars a year well spent if I can keep giving you guys exclusives without having people robbing you of your right to receive for what you are donating.
The Playful Otter
That is very reasonable. It is sad that it had to come to this, but this is where we are and this will hopefully fix things. Having your hardwork be pirated and shared without any credit or momentary compensation for you is down right wrong. I support these changes of it means the two can continue making excellent content.
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
I have plenty of sites that I monitor as well, some days I have to waste an entire weekend just to send DMCA copyright reports to the hosts and try my real best to get my stuff down... With this system, we hope that it will drastically reduce the piracy... Even if there's not stopping it, I know that very well.... And nothing prevents them from actually buying the product in my store on E-Junkie or Deviantart and then uploading it.
Lucifer and Lilith Synd
Yeah, it saddens even us that we cannot rely on Patreon to successfully grant us any defense against these people. But since we cannot do anything else, we are willingly paying 150 dollars per year to have our private server up on Dropbox and grant security not only to us... But even to you all that honestly decided to support us, to see that the money you are investing is not going to waste when someone can easily come in here, steal and pirate stuff that is meant to be exclusive to you guys. Everything has been already deleted now, the dropbox server is going up and will send links to everyone very soon!
Shoe_seat
That makes me sad idk if it's just kids who don't know any better, or adults that are that greedy they can't pay your very low and reasonable fee for content they clearly enjoy. Hope this doesn't steer away legit new patrons. A bit of a bummer for me too I'll need to make sure I have everything stored and sorted on my new pc. At the end of the day you and Lillith work very hard on this so shouldn't feel bad at all about controling your work. Hope this new method is successful!
