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B5 Ch 1: Card Rules Are For Other People

🕑 Added 2024-05-17 05:00:13 +0000 UTC

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Neuos.t

A next button in the chapter 👀👀👀👀 you spoil my binge , dopamine craving brain

Neuos.t

I just read all 4 books on kindle. Imma binge tf out of this!

Jasmine

eek!

Dan

I thought the end of book 4 made it pretty clear that the Dark Heart was eating people this time.

CasStocks

Maybe an appendix at the end of the book that way people can skip if it they don’t want to read/listen?

James Donnelly

@Honour Rae I realized an oversight in book 4. It mentions several times about Arthur not having Mana due to Mana vault being in his blown up anchor. However Counterfeit Siphon grants the use of mana in its discription.

Salvo

I think the shadow teleport, shadow snakes and the stealth class card would be a better set. Them being snakes is just a shape. Imagine if the snakes instead link your shadow with another target to relay messages, or items to transfer between the two as a result of the pair!

Salvo

Thanks, and I do agree that Cressida can use charlatan pair on her own cards(provided the blanks are correct). So she could have been using in on the bear summon or mana shield beforehand, and just not mentioned it. I still think Joy going through the maze was proof of a foresight power the charlatan pair was imitating. As she didn’t get quests, a quest for life trait.

Salvo

A fandom wiki exists for the first 3 books, including character cards and skills. As an audio listener, I appreciate the status sheet isn’t fully listed. Just read some of the skills and save me from ‘tidying lvl 10’ read aloud a thousand times. Pleeeeaaasee! 🥺

James Donnelly

The heart deck dashboard showes linked and set cards as different, I dont know if that matters or if they are now being used interchangeably.

James Donnelly

No. What I'm saying is that Cressida should be able to use Joy's card to make up the missing card for herself. Both Cressida and Joy should be able to use the Quest of Life and Charlatan Pair cards as well as whatever those two cards combined into. They don't share any other cards. They should be way more powerful than they act.

Salvo

It can imitate the missing 5th card. Charlatan pair is not a universal 5th piece. It would also need to be ‘linked’, so Cressida would have to sever the ‘quest for life’ link they currently have. Are you basically saying Joy can become a legendary dragon if Arthur makes these 4 cards into a set?

Daniel Kennerly

There is no constant recap, I only ask for a recap at the beginning of the book.

Preston

I suspect that there is going to be a trick to combining cards into a set and we aren't going to see it happen for a bit. This chapter was a bit of setup for the plot of book 5. However, doing a bit of a re-read I noticed that the flame bear card is already part of another set. Cressida mentions it being "a well documented set". I'm doubting that a card can be in two sets, so i guess we have to get some more animal themed cards in before the set gets made.

James Donnelly

I wouldn't mind seeing Arthur's new expanded heart dashboard.

Preston

Just go do a re-read. The constant recap makes it hard to get into the story.

James Donnelly

The quest of life card doesn't mention anything about length of quests. It says that it semi-gamify's the wielder outlook on life. "Internal goals are Outlined and waypoints are rewarded" In video games you don't only have 1 quest, you can get both long and short term quests at the same time. However while I do believe that her Charlatan Pair is being used on Quest of life. I dont believe that it has to be. What I'm saying is that Cressida should be able to use Charlatan Pair on her cards to give her a 5th card from her summon set.

Salvo

They don’t have a real pair, it is imitating a pair. Charlatan pair has its own unique set. I’ve long held the belief Cressida has quest for life, which is long term quests, and Joy is imitating the sort term goals of the quest for life set. She mentioned ‘Arthur is the one with the really long quest’. It also explains her friendly, cheery side. Her card is your missing best friend.

James Donnelly

I had never thought about it before and it was never explained. But I have now realized what Joy's card does. The book discription. Charlatan Pair _eta Ra_e When linked ____, matches and duplicates a _____ random card of the same set, Warning: Must use ___ of the ___ rank and tier. This is how I believe the description reads. When linked together, matches and duplicates a different random card of the same set. Warning: Must use cards of the same rank and tier. This would make Joy and Cressida already holders of a pair of meta cards without us knowing, and since they can use each other's linked cards would give Cressida the potential for a charlatan 5 of a kind if Arthur is successful in linking her summons.

Salvo

Advance controls to his heart deck was mentioned. Clearly, the card crafting is gaining skills, influenced by the others. master of cards has no skills mentioned, just amazing abilities. I think the big advantage will be ‘skills’ and ‘body enhancement’ changes will be the easiest to rewrite on cards. Imagine he just writes “dragon riding skill when linked with a dragon” for every common rider. He had trouble changing the book binder card probably cause he doesn’t have the skill. How are you supposed to change what you don’t care to learn?

Daniel Kennerly

Honor Rae - Would you consider at the beginning of book 5 … a recap of Arthur and Brixby’s skills and the cards they have in their decks?

C.H.

Nice!

Anthony Brookes

That's my point, he has so little knowledge the little joke about it is funny 😅

James Donnelly

You cant blame Arthur, Most people in the Faberge kingdom don't know about other kingdoms. Im assuming that's by the kings design, it's easier to control the ignorant who think they have nowhere else to go.

Squirtle

I feel like you should add "after all" after "This was only a Common card" You just told us it was a common card in the previous paragraph, so it sounds weird to be saying it again with out something extra.

Robert Hinz

Thanks for the reply, I can definitely understand the in-story justification, the rest of the animal cards are combat oriented and the snake isn't so it's too different. The upgrade being bad for Joy got me thinking though, it's crazy that upgrading a dragon rider pair safely takes 10 cards and has to be correctly timed. The fact that a Mythic started as Common is such a long journey, new cards traditionally come from dragons, linking with humans, or killing Scourge so finding "your" card has to be a needle in a haystack situation. Also, I'm assuming upgrading enhances the linked card as well, I wonder what will change about Arthur and Brixaby's?

Ron von Paulus

Thanks for the chapter. Solid start!

Alric

I'm sure he will combine them but what happens if he destroys them? To her I mean

Steven Beal

Thanks for the chapter

Tartlet

So wait, what additional set bonus did Arthur get for the Master of Cards Addition?

Livingcog

Its more valuable to have five of a set in commons than one uncommon card.

Finn Ryan

So once you have all 5 it automatically upgrades? that seems weird if you can't ever have the full set, just the upgraded card which I assume loses at least some functionality. I assumed it was a choice. This makes. me wonder why the smugglers in book one had a set rather than combining it.

John Smith

That’s fine if it was intended as a joke, but it read as a grammar error to me. One that majorly broke the flow early on in the book.

Rain Olson

Ahh, this looks great. Was going to try and not hang onto new chapters like a starving child, but waiting until August is sooooo looooong. Will the audiobook come out at the same time as the book? That would be an awesome almost-birthday-gift for me!

Anthony Brookes

Yeah that makes sense, my point being is he Initally thought Fabergé/Russian was the only language so he passed on the primal polygot card ages ago, I just like how it demonstrates his ignorance compared to our standards about things despite his recent experience in the dark heart

Waterhobit

I’m assuming Russia. He is from the Faberge kingdom and faberge eggs are a Russian thing.

ApeOfHonor

Yeah, I like audiobooks but waiting till August is not for me. I will still listen to the book even though I read it here. I cant even imagine how long will it be for book 5 to come to Audible.

Anthony Brookes

English, a derivative of Texan is hilarious, proper made me snort. It showcases that despite how much he's learned of the past, things we'd take as obvious he's missed, like English being the root language 🤣 that said do wr know what area hes even from in our time? I can't remember 😅

Chip

But cant dragons also upgrade if they complete their set? Why not just have then deliberately not link the snakes until Joy is ready to upgrade at the same time?

Salvo

The other in universe rule is a soul or magical container seems to be needed to keep a card from decaying. I think a 6th card added to an in universe set will probably be too much magic for all the cards, and the weakest link in a chain will probably corrupt rapidly. Or jump out of bounds, to another set or realm. other dimensions exist like the shadow teleport card or the new river styx ferryman card imply.

Josh

So if he forces a card from a completable set into a new set, the other cards around the world would change to lose that line, but if the originals don't have the line, he should be safe?

Salvo

I believe the universe has a rule that a cards description says to collect the whole set only if the set exists.

Josh

What happens to the card of their actual sets out in the world if he succeeds?

Josh

I think the point is that he doesn't know English came first; he's actually mistaken because of all the lost history

Reno

We had some very strong hints last book that Texan is in fact English, or something very close. The alphabet, the name, the history, the language of the people in the trial etc. This reference is just to showcase how little Arthur understands the topic. I found it quite funny.

Reno

Pff. A derivative of Texan. 😂 His geography is getting better, but his history knowledge is still shit. I wonder how many people actually know what happened. There have to be some, if the scourge gods also know. The mythics?

Decide

He'll figure it out. I bet he's overlooking something, or hasn't noticed how the relationship between card sets works. My reasoning is that it's not so much as the words, but as the subtle connection sets share between each other. I mean, he can feel Master of Combat even if it's not with him, and he knew about Master of Cards from his heart visions. Altering card text isn't the same power as forging a set, is my idea.

Salvo

Thanks for the chapter! Right into the last books promised potential! I wonder if Cressida quest card activated? I vote summoner class or maybe a Captain Planet mega summon!? Elemental menagerie?

Honour Rae

Good point, I'll add something about it. The non-story reason is that would make five which is a whole set. Then she's upgrade to Legendary which would be un-good for Joy. The in-story reason is the shadow snakes are more like the shadow teleport power she has than the animal elemental summons.

CasStocks

Tftc!

Robert Hinz

I'm glad this volume starts off with him working on card modifications, I look forward to seeing what he accomplishs. If they're trying to make an animal set, why didn't they include her shadow snakes she uses as messengers?

Daniel

Strong start!

DirePants

Finally!!!!! 🤯

Tom

He could probably also do the same for Horatios cards.

Tom

I'm pretty sure Arthur getting it the wrong way around is a joke.

Fury777

Damn I did read to fast. Need to read the chapter again. So far so good, brb.

John Smith

Um, the “derivative of Texan” line threw me off at the beginning. If the goal is to indicate English as a source for Texan, I got there eventually. But I don’t think derivative works in that direction or it is strange enough to ring oddly Cool chapter overall though

Voror

Hopefully it's a success though I think actually working on the Commons was a good move. I imagine it's perhaps focusing on commonalities that can link them. He should think about how his own set links up and boosts each other.


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