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B2 Ch35: Wind Release

🕑 Added 2022-12-15 06:59:02 +0000 UTC

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Sarah Grfghlt

I guess the mana will scale somehow with his skills and the card will be super nice

Alex

OK... I suppose I am slowly starting to like Penn less and less. Maybe at some point in the future he will turn evil and I'll be fine if Arthur gets his card

Ninetails

Normally for this kind of future sight, you would assume that you see what would happen if you did not have the extra information from the future sight. The reason Marion could dodge was that Arthur would have shouted, but now that he moves himself, there is no need to do so. It seems like this is just a misunderstanding on Arthurs side. That said, the time back at the gala where Marion did not react to Penns attack is actually where we can gleam more into his abilities, because at that point Marion's lack of action changed Arthur's reasoning, which in turn would have changed the future. If Marion just saw the unaltered future, then maybe it would make sense of Marion reacted, followed by Arthur trying to dodge, but that is not what happened, so something else might be afoot. It would however also make sense that Marion just did not act because he saw that Penn would hold back or just did not care that much at the time, which could have been the reason instead.

Some BS Deity

Its not a locked future since he can use it to dodge attacks or answer questions that were never asked

Some BS Deity

Part of why it's only 3 seconds. Though it's definitely less of that and more reaction. Arthur would have called out anyway. Seeing Marion just confirmed what he was already doing.

Nathan Sto

I would be interested… but it probably wouldn’t be beneficial for you as the author. As readers we love to speculate, and the only thing that gets us more excited than time-related abilities are ships. I’ve seen a lot of authors who deeply regret giving too much information on character abilities. Eventually the fan base figures out how to exploit the ability and trivialize conflict, which leads to either continuity errors or writing something no one wants to fix it. Probably best to leave us a little in the dark.

Honour Rae

Working on it! This next one is being a beast tho

Honour Rae

Children have to reach a certain maturity (usually around 12) before they can put a card in their heart deck. I could totally go into how Marion sees the future if you guys are interested.

Honour Rae

It's basically a combination of 'phantom limb pain' and losing something dear to you -- like if you woke up one day and couldn't do your favorite hobby that you absolutely lived for. Only the pain is constant. So it's more of an emotional pain. It doesn't suck down life force and it doesn't mess with mana (though if you didn't have any cards you couldn't use the mana anyway). The pain is all emotional. Some people handle it better than others, but it's not something to mess with lightly.

Håvard

This is very simile the first time he answered questions before they where comleatley asked.

Adam McGuire

I believe the age a child can put a card in their heart deck is around 12. Kane's soldiers didn't bother checking the young kids for the legendary card

Nathan Sto

I tend to think that it’s not self-fulfilling. However, it’s cool to think about how such a card would impact the development of a child (~5 yo, right?). I could easily see a character twist where he learnt very young that his future self always made the best choices, and therefore mostly just follows his future self. A flaw where he’s failed to adapt reasonably to the card he was given.

wilfredo zurita

Good chapter, thank you, next one please

Flopmind

Yeah, it's not a self-fulfilling prophecy. I highly doubt it.

neco

That's why I found the whole thing so confusing but I mean that paragraph proves it. Marion knew about what Arthur would say before he knew it and therefore prompted him to say it. That is a self fulfilling prophecy. Though how it actually works and what he perceives is up to debate. But yeah in some way or form this loop has to be either perceived or "simulated". It's like that Harry Potter scene with the patronus at the lake (book 3)

Wensber

I doubt that is definite proof its a self fulfilling prophecy. Would everyone be forced to follow through with the seen future? Would Marion be unable to warn others of danger since the other person would be forced to follow the future anyway? Its more likely to me that Arthur just did it anyway by choice. Also, self fulfilling future sight makes no sense really. Marion reacted to scourge in the future. If future sight already accounts for his reactions, then Marion 4s in the past saw himself react and how he reacted. How far back does it go?

Flopmind

Yes we do, he assembled them by working for shards. Except for nullify which he traded an assembled card for.

Nathan Sto

That would be a creepy twist - Marion just a puppet to his card, but it doesn’t look like that’s the case because when the kid copied him she seemed to still have free will.

neco

Btw. It's all based on this sentence: Arthur knew what he had to do. “Marion, its coming at you to the left!” he yelled, knowing Marion had already heard his voice in the future.

neco

I imagine that to be incredibly disorienting as he would have made a decision before making a decision wich then would mean he doesn't really have to make a decision anymore wich would mean he just goes through the motion of what his future actions dictate. It's very confusing and I can't really rap my head around the idea

neco

Strength depends on mana used therefore one can't really say that yet

neco

I imagine it feels somewhat like depression as that too feels like your missing something, or "empty". But so or so we know it's a very unpleasant feeling that is constant and seems more emotional. I honestly don't really get what's so difficult to understand, the symptoms are known and otherwise it's magic

neco

So Marion's future sight is a self fulfilling prophecy? That would mean he can't really change anything about the future he sees since his reaction to said future is already accounted for in what he sees

Nathan Sto

More like, why bother comparing combat skills when there’s someone like penn who can effortlessly win every fight.

Adam McGuire

Ask Arthur's father. He was a duke so more than likely had multiple high level cards in his heart deck.

Undead Writer

Thanks for the chapter’

Yashakami

Technically we dont know how he got those ones, but I did forget about them

seth dauer

Depending on the wording, it could be perfect. Growth in general vs plant growth. That blast was too strong for that uncommon I think. It got stronger as it went...

Flopmind

yeah but it's his 4th not stolen card. First charming gentle-person, then nullify card, then personal space, and now this

Flopmind

Is it bad that I wanted to see the plant growth card?

Termii6665

1. yes, putting it all into a "magical core" theory, would be logical. But I would like to know what happens if you remove a card. Is it permanent mana damage? permanent life force damage? Does it hinder you in other ways? I don’t really buy the “you removed a part of you” reason. Every single cell in your body will be dead in around 10 years. You can replace organs and live. You can lose most of your brain and live. We adapt over time and we change a lot. You are not the same person you were as a kid. It is our nature to lose who we were just a few years ago, we not only change, we have to change. You do not want behave like a kid when you are a grown up, for example. 2. but then it is 'only' pain, nothing harmful in itself. Humans adapt to pain, there is no way you will always feel the same pain unless something stays broken. Maybe phantom pain, but that seems to be a stretch and it should be fixable in a magical world. As said, people adapt. I would find it more logical if only some people could not overcome a removed card and some do. The same way trauma effects people in our world.

Stephen Pearson

Not stolen, probably:-p

Flopmind

I think the main point of it is twofold: 1. It becomes a part of you in a magical core sort of way that defies normal emotional attachment. 2. Removing a card from your heart hurts forever unless you put the very same card back in it again.

Flopmind

Wdym by above board?

Termii6665

can we, at some point, get an accurate description why you don't want to remove any cards from your heart deck? We know that it is painful to remove cards, but how harmful is it? Is it only harmful short term (days/weeks/month) or long term (years/forever). Can you overcome it by simply adapting? (People exist that survived an accident with only half their brain still working). Does it depend on the card and the holder or is it the same for every card and person? How fast do the negative effects take effect? How common is it to actually remove cards? How many can you remove in your life? In most situations I cannot follow the characters logic when it comes to this topic. Especially because the future king would take over a mythic set and probably more cards from the old king. Meaning both the old king and the future king would shuffle around their heart cards. If it was that harmful, why would they do it like this?

Markus Iversen

Tyftc

Honour Rae

Well these guys are high nobles or royals with a literal library of cards to pick from at their homes. So to them, filling up their heart deck is something to think about. They'd expect Earnest "Arthur" Kane to be the same. More to the point, there's two schools of thought when it comes to the heart deck: Specialization or generalization. This is for high level (wealthy) card holders, not people who are willing to shove basically any card they can snatch up in their heart. Until recently, Arthur hadn't had to think about that.

Gopard

Thanks for the chapter! I don't really understand why everyone is saying Arthur should not take the card? I believe it is ludicrous to believe that he actually finds enough growth cards to "fill his heart deck" and all have them "scale" with his set. It all falls apart if he doesn't get the dragon anyway and unlike us readers he does not know himself to be the "Mc" in comparison to people like prince's, princesses or Penn who beat almost any legendary directly. So I think he should take it and consequently give Marion the other card back if only to avoid direct conflict with the crown before he is even a dragonrider.

Yashakami

I firmly believe he could use it for flight with a glider or a balloon, but that would be a pretty desperate situation lol

Honour Rae

If this were a different magic system, I'd eventually evolve that thing to flight. lol

Yashakami

His second above board card, itd turn out pretty useful in a lot of ways. Especially in air combat. And a wind based set would be useful in numerous ways


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