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SSD 5.14 - Under Pressure

🕑 Added 2024-10-11 18:14:43 +0000 UTC

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Foxmoor Fiction

Since the light doesn't need to compress, I'm pretty sure it would remain the same. On the other hand, longer wavelengths, like radio, would be completely blocked, unless they hit just right and the flatter portion of the wavelength went through. Of course, as a result, the radio waves might cancel out, as only directly opposing bits would be allowed through. (The very top of the wavelength and the very bottom.) Though admittedly that assumes a completely equal portion of both. What would be more interesting is if Caden made the compressed space smaller enough the reds would start to be filtered out, then the oranges, yellows, and so on, as those wavelengths became too large.

Zat

This does make me wonder if the light would be the same color inside the compressed space. It'd definitely be brighter, cause the boundary is basically a big ol magnifying glass acting on whatever is inside, but I'm not sure how or if the wavelength would get effected.

Foxmoor Fiction

To be specific it is a cube 10x10x10 with a size of a few millimeters, inside the larger 10x40x40. Yes, exactly, and the more durable the thing trying to enter, the more force is needed. Technically a decent chunk of the steel he threw at it at supersonic speeds was forced inside, it just didn't survive long enough to even do anything besides join the rest of the explosion.

Zat

Ahh! I had thought that the compressed space was large enough to fit him for some reason! We start with a 10x40x40 space, but it gets compressed 'like before', down to a few millimeters. For some reason I think I took the larger starting size to mean the ending size could fit his hand, since he was trying to put it in. 100% on board with what's happening here now. He'd basically need to impart enough energy to litteraly compress whatever he's putting in there into a few millimeters of cube. The impenetrableness makes way more sense now. Thanks for the explanations!

Foxmoor Fiction

Except, from the point of view of an object trying to enter, that compression is essential I stand at the barrier. Not s problem for any object smaller than the internal size of the cube, a few millimeters across, but essentially impossible for any object larger. In order to procede forward the object would need to compress to be small enough to fit inside. And that compression requires force to overcome. Force that can only come from the forward momentum of an object trying to enter. And so those forces work to counter act each other. If you tried to shove something soft, say a loaf of bread, into the wall, that would probably work, somewhat, though you would only manage to compress the first few bits inside... Which would have a really weird visual effect. While the air is clear inside a cube, objects appear massively magnified.

Zat

But then wouldn't there be no wall? If they're the same apparent pressure at the boundary, why can't the foot go through? Wouldn't it just force air out around itself like normal? (And probably, like, have a lot of bad things happen to it being in a space with plasma air. Or, you know, becoming incidentally compressed itself, which is probably bad for a foot.) I guess I'm imagining the boundry as an infinitly flat "cone" of growth or shrinkage. You'd expect as atoms started to enter or exit the cube they would at some point be the same apparent size, spatially, or the leading edge would at least. At that point, they should mix like normal, right?

Foxmoor Fiction

Two areas I took some liberties, simply because I have no way to know what would happen. First, that light would emerge back out of the area in all the same orientation, so things were not distorted. Entirely possible it would act more like a lens, with things displaced and distorted. Two, how a larger object trying to enter would interact differently than a smaller one. Not sure what the hell would happen, so I did what I thought made sense.

Foxmoor Fiction

External pressure, the entire pressure of the air outside, is compressed spacially to hit a much smaller surface area internally, so things are still balanced. Like I said, bending space makes things weird.

Foxmoor Fiction

The spacial compression has taken the total energy inside that cube, and compressed it into a smaller volume, from an internal perspective, but it is still interacting with the rest of the world along the normal larger area. So, essentially lowered the entropy inside the volume, feeling energy, but that effect is reversed when something leaves that area, so it doesn't create a pressure difference.

Foxmoor Fiction

This is one of the weirder aspects. Gas pressure, which is how all this interacts, is related to the amount of atoms and their speed that are hitting against a particular surface area. The surface area that the molecules of gas inside the cube are using to interact with things outside has not changed, meaning that the apparent pressure is the same. From the point of view of the rest of the air, the air pressure and temperature inside that cube is still the same. Due to conservation of energy, strangely, this is the only answer that makes sense.

Zat

Very interesting. I like how much thought was put into the physics of this. I think I mostly understand how it works, but I have a question about the "air wall" interaction. What force is stopping the air pressure from equalizing? It makes sense that the air gets compressed when the space cube is surrounded in rock, as the air can't leave and is imparting significantly less force on the rock than the rock is imparting on it. But rock is sold. If there's a open hallway filled with a gas accessible, you should definitely get an outflow, as the air molecules traveling 'in' get more and more crowded and end up reversing course, but the air molecules moving 'out' would conversely find much more empty space, and keep going. I don't think it'd work quite like normal pressurized gas leaving a sealed vessel but it should happen all the same. Thinking about this is odd... From your description, molecules/atoms stay the same size in both spaces, which makes sense given universal force constants and such, but they would have different apparent sizes across the threshold. Interior molecules are effectively abutted against a multitude of 'tiny' exterior molecules. What... would that do to a chemical reaction? Weird stuff!

Foxmoor Fiction

In so far as I understand things, this is what would actually happen if you could actually manipulate space this way. However, all of this is only hypothetical, and I'm sure they others would disagree and think things would work differently.

Noonegoodsir

“As applied to the cubical room, it felt as though the space at the top was slightly… larger, than the area at the top.” Did you mean “than the area at the bottom.”? Or the other way around? “I joined the stone together, and suddenly I had a section of stone crossing a few few of space… by traveling less than an inch.” - A few few. Nuf’ said.

Jayden Martinez

Both of them are gonna have fun with this, invisible blades that can only be dodged and other fun and deadly traps

bbk

Hum so far not at all what I expected to see from this skill. To what point Is it rooted in irl science?


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