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Book 7 Chapters 62, 63, 64

🕑 Added 2024-08-16 01:55:23 +0000 UTC

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Laurin Toohey

Any time my husband and I see one we scream in each other’s faces…

Gabe

Have we figured out why The Sledge is speaking exclusively in video game quotes? Has this been happening since the "Living is winning. Everything else is bullshit." at the end of book 5? Earlier?

Damien Paul

I don't know how so many people are poi t out plot hole or mistakes you're making Matt. I can barely keep up with all the people, names and spells and what ever happened 2 floors ago haha 😂

Deana Whitney

I've always read via audio book. So this is the first time the notes in the Cookbook have stood out to me as really long. Yet, I also wonder if I could follow the battle without the outline.

Joseph Slaughter

I got the patreon alert and got excited for new chapters. THANKS FOR THE COCKTEASE! 😂😂😂

Nick Baird

Nah. I read Malazan. Our mantra is "just keep going"

Matt Brown

I mean I guess but to use your analogy if I’m a baker making a cake I would more likely ask my senior baker or someone more experienced than me before I called a federal agency

Andrew McLellan

Eating the corpses with his new ability?

Soluna

Didn’t he use a bunch to make chum bombs in the bubble?

7-2 off suit

https://deadline.com/2024/08/dungeon-crawler-carl-seth-macfarlane-universal-chris-yost-series-1236045866/ In case you missed it.

Sabe F.

As long as Matt doesn't suddenly develop a GRRM caliber writers block once the show starts it's great news.

Christoph Hall

I think it fits. It's a spell used only for Faction Wars so it would be her place to explain the mechanics, especially if the spell gets tweaked between seasons. It's like making cake and adding rum. You're under FDA regulatory jurisdiction, but you might call the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to get information specific to what you're allowed to do with the rum.

Andrew Millen

Hmm, I wonder why Carl suddenly doesn’t have many corpses in his inventory 🤔

Kaci Rider

Just saw the Fuzzy Door news ourselves! Congratulations 🎉 We are beyond excited and couldn’t be happier for you 🥳 I’m so grateful that people understand this story deserves all the mediums it gets. 💕

Scottie Enright

Congrats on the deal with Fuzzy Door! I am stoked it is going to be a TV show so we can get hours of entertainment out of this story! Good luck Matt🥳

Ted Dief

you're right! that was mentioned in chapter 1 and I totally forgot about it-- although, this passage from chapter 60 seems to suggest there is a stairwell chamber in the dream castle? "*Prong two is the digger. It is already in position, and its purpose is to destroy the Dream castle. Their task is actually quite difficult for the reasons I laid out in my earlier post regarding how throne rooms work. The short version is throne rooms act just like the stairwell chamber. They can’t be destroyed. And worse, they can’t be moved, either. So the digger pilots need to work around the fixed stairwell chamber as they make their way through the castle. " might be a mistake.

Dragan

I thought it was just a random prince of Sheol but I like these theories.

Douglas Erdman

I think they seeded the battlefield so Donut could cast her “War Crime” spell. With Bodi’s group retreating and the Madness troops pursuing, theyre walking into a trap. With all the new info about war mages, I’m thinking the war crime spell creates fleshers from dead bodies.

william brown

I have thought that for a whole, especially with the addition of the size up potions he would have used one on her.

Fyzzghank

Oh! I figured they know each other, but I bet you’re right!

Dragan

Holy Jesus fuck this poor soul just needs his damn Ghost Ship trap. Almighty Matt, in all your power you must quell Greenwoods endless needs for it, please!

Ilya Taytslin

I thought all 293 stairwells were in Larracos?

Preston West

Something that's been on my mind is Samantha and the former crawlers. It's been heavily implied that the live audience knows what's going on with her (there was a recap episode where they blurred out explanation boxes for her). It's totally feasible this information isn't usable and/or relevant, but I do feel like Carl would have asked about it at some point because he still has no clue what's going on there

Immortal R.C.

Maybe call it a raging sea or something?

Sabe F.

It's not in the plush toy, the toy is a summoning totem of Kimaris, meaning that it will summon Kimaris from wherever he is to the place where the toy is. The telegraphed lore on Kimaris is the bedlam bride suggesting that Samantha would find the fact that Carl has a summoning totem for him to be a thing. So he's most likely Samantha's king.

FossilWreckers

I doubt changelings can subvert the chat. Brittany is playing middleman between the Crawlers and changelings.

Levi

I just want to thank Matt for making me think of Prepotente every time I see a goat anymore.

TKO

Yeah, I'm just re-listening to the iron tangle level. What an awesome time that was! The spell rips the skin off of the dead and animates the skin to look for new bones. Then fuses with the new host, melting the flesh off of the poor victims.

william brown

Random thought. Is Brittany a changeling? Her personality completely changed this floor didn't it?

Teal

I thought the same seemed out of place. I think maybe one of the former crawlers might know that or Mordecai. The adjunct hasn’t given advice like that out of nowhere to my recollection. If the adjunct does give advice, maybe a little antidote from Carl being like WTF? Add something out of the not ordinary coming from an outsider might be a hint of future things to come. Like maybe somehow she got hit by a psychoactive spell, etc., or the rules change once the teams get dwindled down to a certain point, which would need to be explained.

william brown

Well I wasn't sure until I was listening to it again and kimaris has the ability to find loot and things, so scavenger makes sense, and Kevin and magnificent Troy had made the comment we would never see the scavenger. Will we never see them because it is in a plush toy?

QueenofHartbrake

Pretty sure it’s sculapendria made pretty clean when they are talking about Katia’s knee pads … I think kimaris is Samantha’s king

Matt Brown

“Baroness Victory: Paint the Target has a distance limit. It’s not just line of sight.” It might just be me but I feel like victory wouldn’t give advice like this. It sounds like more of a mordecai thing to say especially since no one specifically asked her

E13design

The Enchanted Spiked Kneepads the Munificent Goddess Kina. Level 10 Eater of the Dead skill. Technically Katia item, but come on. He has been pulling corpses into his inventory since day one.

Sabe F.

So it's a way of insulting someone's mom and telling them to run home to mommy? That's fucking beautiful.

Keera thoughts

yes matt, make 69 about gods having sex or related to sex lol

william brown

Is the scavenger kimaris?

Grigorius of Tomsk, Devourer of Pop-Tarts, Victor of Many Battles

Yup. Need moar card action! :)) Also, Lucia Mar is still out there somewhere. Lurking. Quiet. And she did promise to kill Donut at some point. O_o

Dragan

Sometime earlier they mention that they had all the crawlers save for Osvaldo and prepatente. Then they got pony making Osvaldo’s team the only one not in the posse. Edit: Wait no there were also some who got conscripted early on.

Grigorius of Tomsk, Devourer of Pop-Tarts, Victor of Many Battles

Good point, but then we'd see or hear about the conscripted crawlers being forced to use their cards, no? :P A single immortal Mongolian worm could really ruin someone's plans... But also, I don't think half the crawlers are currently hiding out in the forest with Osvaldo haha. Either all the card-carriers decided to snub the Princess Posse team, or we should still have the same ratio: at least 1 out of 6 crawlers would have a card.

Sabe F.

We don't know how many crawlers joined the princess posse team. From the sounds of it, it could be less than half.

Grigorius of Tomsk, Devourer of Pop-Tarts, Victor of Many Battles

Quick side note: it's a bit weird how few crawlers have or utilize their cards from the last floor. There were over 30,000 survivors, and each squad was capped at 6 people. Even assuming everyone was part of a full squad (as opposed to squads of 2 or 3), that's at least 5,000 crawlers who should be holding on to their favourite, most badass card. But so far, we've only seen that during the reaver battle. (To be fair, the "1970s cult leader with lemonade" bit was hilarious.) Can we get some more of that sweet, sweet card action? :) (Unless, of course, every last crawler who had a card - 1 in 6 - got reassigned to the card battalion.)

Katyna Smith

I think he said awhile back that Rosetta had something going on with the undead.

Katyna Smith

I noticed in a few chapters back Florin said ass instead of arse and I was thinking wouldn't he say arsenal as an Australian?

Vickie Rashvand

I think a Syndicate one as those who’ve said it include: Mordecai, Quasar and the merc. hunting Bea.

Ted Dief

If the only stairwells we know about are in the throne rooms, but there are supposed to be 293 stairwells on floor 9, I'm curious if we'll find out how the rest of them are hidden throughout the lands :)

Dan

So this is level was built by Valve?

Runae Lee

Ooooooh weeeeeee

Sabe F.

I disagree, if you can't follow the narrative without a diagram, and the narrative is unpublished, why not go for clarity?

FauxLegs

Memorial crystal scene feels just like Lex and Tim trying to turn off the flashlight in Jurassic Park. Cue the predators.

FauxLegs

Same spell as War Mage on the Dismemberer train from Iron Tangle that Carl decapitates.

FauxLegs

Thinking the same thing. Some of these chapters really portray a high level of chaos occurring on the battlefields. It’s hard to keep straight, so Carl trying to manage it all really is a bad idea.

Lessthan

The phrase is an idiom and a curse. This is a standard style practice, where the curse is not translated for emphasis and to show that the phrase is all one culturally significant curse. I imagine the AI would follow this choice. I would say that we got the meaning from context. The literal meaning is "Go back to the whore who birthed you," if that is what you are worried about.

Jordan Reynolds

...oh wow, I read that and then completely forgot about it because I was so fixated on "wait she's dead", lmao. Thanks!

David Crump

Juicebox is going to be furious.

David Crump

I feel like that was covered when they spoke to Bautista the first time. He was speaking in his native language but the system did translate it. EDIT: Maybe this is a side effect of the AI going off the rails, losing/cutting off functionality inadvertently?

Laura Hemly

But I could *easily* believe it. Remember that woman who's had a bunch of surgery to look like fucking Barbie doll? People and other sentient beings are a real mess!

Laura Hemly

Please save Louis! He's someone who really needs to be alive at the end of FW -- he's in so many ways an innocent, he's too easy a target to be taken out!

Laura Hemly

Not starting -- I've been lost for a while! But I figure if Carl, Florin, Tipid, etc. have some idea where everyone is, that's good enough. Oh, and Matt, it would probably be helpful if he knows, too!

Laura Hemly

I'm still wondering whose left tit they're all referring to, too!

Fyzzghank

After book 6, I’m finding myself trying to anticipate what craziness we’re going to have for chapter 69. Guess we could have it in the next couple of drops.

jrue

Definitely getting complicated. But that summary was helpful to reestablish where everything is at

Ani-kins

That makes sense! I would love to see it retroactively-added as such to earlier parts of the story on this floor. It was SUPER helpful!

Dirty Dibbler

Necromancy

Leif Olav Støle

Is this the first time anyone sends a chat message in a different language? I just figured everyone spoke/wrote their native language and the AI did the translation. Felt weird to just have one sentence out of the blue.

Nyquistfrequency

Looks like a standard aggregate SITREP from all the officers. I'd assume it's a simple feature of the Faction chat interface. Kinda like "pinned thread" so to speak.

William Greene

A t shirt or poster of Yakman Dong would be epic!!!

Matthew Smalley

Could be, though my current bet is his graveyard is what the others were "seeding" on the battlefield. Either for some mass resurrection spell (maybe that's what war crime is, I forgot if it was already revealed), or to prompt another demonic outbreak.

Michael T

Bold prediction: at the end of the floor, the Gate of the Feral Gods will be in Lucia Mar's inventory. Maximum chaos.

Nyquistfrequency

Matt, having learned you are a fellow Sabino High school alumni, Mongo is appalled. The treatment of Eegee's as a simple "sub shop" is unacceptable. You should know better. Mongo demands the Crawlers find another Eegee's safe room, and experience the magic of a Flavor of the Month Eegee.

Ani-kins

Where did the automated message at the beginning of ch. 63 come from? I was reading it as if coming from the AI, but it seemed like an awful lot of info for the AI to just elect to provide to all the officers of a faction. Then at the end, it mentioned what the standing orders are, which definitely doesn't seem like something the AI would care about sharing. Plus, there's none of the AI's snark. Did Carl or Rosetta write it? And if so, what makes it an "automated message"?

Brooke M

Aren’t you guessing that’s what the cheese cutters are?

Joseph Harris

Close. “You’re not done yet.” is the name of the spell.

CrashCanuck

I just want Donut to say "Tagg, you're it." when she does kill him.

alex

Saving Louie last minute

Stephen Irving

"Nami sounds like that old crawler because she had surgery to make herself look and sound just like her. It’s a thing." WOW, that's tremendously fucked up.

GoldenShoppingBag_101

What you mean?

E13design

Graveyard empty due to Carls new item.

Fyzzghank

This has serious repercussions for the Donut Holes merch.

Jason

Calling it right now...Prepotente/Bianca v. Reaver Dragon!

Jason

Agreed

Joseph Slaughter

Anyone else starting to get lost? 😄

Rodrigo Alencar

Mas o “vai pra puta que pariu” ficou muito bom!

Rob Laflamme

So good!!! One quick critique. The line of "you can't save everybody" in chapter 63... shouldn't that be "you can't save them all"?

Josh Offsie

And Carl doesn’t wonder why Prepotente just immediately agrees to relocate over near him…

Josh Offsie

if you go back a few books when she got the war crime spell from her book club delivery, i’m fairly sure it reanimates corpses en masse. “you’ll stop fighting when i say so, not when you’re dead” or something to that effect.

Richard Blackburn

When all this works, I want donut to get a fan box with a "Cat Ass Trophy" (catastrophe).

Joshua Eig

Florin is Australian which is why he said ute. It’s an Australian term.

Immortal R.C.

Damn, this is so good. I cannot wait for the next installment.

Immortal R.C.

Just a suggestion & an edit: In Chapter 62, you say UTE-sized rocks. I didn’t know what that was and had to look it up. It bumped me and if it did me I might others. “Truck-sized” might be more universally understood. In Chapter 63, during the explanation of the Madness Plan, you say: “And they also utilize pockets of *a* flesh-melting spells …”

Terra

yay, an update! Great chapters!!! I love the way Donut called it the Foop haha I thought it sounded great. It makes sense now why Yarilo was in the last chapter but got retconned, you just pulled him out too early haha. so excited to see what happens with the Madness!

Immortal R.C.

I think they are antipersonnel missiles, not sure if we have an exact description yet

Derek Plote

The description of the the river when Shi Maria was talking to him felt a little confusing. It was no longer a river but a constant stream makes it sound smaller (because in my opinion at least, a stream is smaller than a river), but then the text right after that made it sound worse. So I was unclear after reading that if the river was getting better or worse for Carl.

Luke Woods

Caught that too and did a double take wondering if I had missed something. It will be glorious!

Sandboy OC

Agree with the comment that maps, while very good, won't help audiobook readers. A few more of those automated updates with each location given as a clock time (with Larracos as the center of the clock) would make it a lot more accessible. That said, spatial understanding isn't a must to enjoy the action, for me at least. I've recently re-read book 3 while working on chapter summaries for the wiki. The whole spatial construction of the Iron Tangle story-line makes a lot more sense when read slowly from the page, but I still enjoyed it in the audio as it was enough for the characters to understand the details. I always had a rough idea and that was ok. I suspect the same will be true of faction wars. My biggest issue at the moment, though this is probably caused by reading in bits over a long period, is in the characterisation of the Reavers and the Madness. Because we never encountered them before this floor, and they're a bit mysterious, they haven't really formed in my mind very well.

Sandboy OC

Right? Now is that a common syndicate phrase or is it specific to one planet of Skyfowl?

Sandboy OC

Social media types getting cosmetic surgery to look and sound just like popular dead crawlers. Fun bit of world building that shows how obnoxious citizens of the Syndicate can be. But don't worry, if I'm any judge the people driving gods are all going to die. They're going to die a lot.

Sandboy OC

Atrocities Go!

Gabriel Magalhães

Matt, if we ever see Osvaldo's totem from the last floor, please make it a Boto Cor de Rosa

TKO

Unclear, but the "seeding the battlefield" Bodi is doing is probably with the corpses. And GC, BWR, NW Princess Donut the Queen Anne Chonk will "War Crime" the hell out of them. Whataever that ends up being.

Vickie Rashvand

Excellent! So many little blink and you miss it details. The “by his left tit” was a personal highlight…

Jordan Reynolds

when talking about Eris - "It's not Hekla" ...Hekla? The crawler that Katia obliterated back on the train level? Why would it be her if she's dead?

Sce7tm

I may have missed it in previous chapters, but why is Carl's graveyard almost empty?

Carolina Vieira

I am Brazilian and I have a comment on Osvaldo’s message. The right way of typing is “Vai pra puta que pariu!” Without the ¡ on the front. This exclamation mark is only used in Spanish 🙂

riyon hutton

Both he and prepotente need it so it is possible that he will have a chance to get it too. I mean the gift box was so obviously called out and still nothing. I’d still really like to find out Katia’s last memory trip 🕕

riyon hutton

✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️

riyon hutton

Jeff is going to have his work cut out for him

riyon hutton

That’s not ominous at all

David K. Storrs

The maps are nice to have but they don't really matter. There's no need to know where things are in space -- "people are fighting in different theaters" is enough and we don't need to care where exactly.

Andrew Bartlett

Give the man his Ghost Ship trap god damn it, he's only asked for it 30 times!

waterkangaroo

AI goes OUT OF ITS WAY to tell Carl "hey this Emberus memorial crystal shit is really fucking important" and Carl continues to be like "yeah ok that's nice, I've got better shit to do"

Gonk

Didn't expect my doppelganger to make another appearance

Patrick Turner

To verify you are not a robot check all the squares on the boxer shorts that have hearts 💖💖

Stephen Greenwood

Now that I had the chance to read the chapters... Fucking amazing as always, the Apito/God/scavenger's daughter storyline is the one I'm most interested in, so it's nice to see another clue. And now would be a perfect time for a Ghost Ship trap. I can't be the only one who has read the "Dominion of Blades" series in this group and would like to see something like that. Not to mention fans of the movie itself in here that also want to see it happen.

Donny Duncan

Some things to correct that I found: Chapter 62: "But we were *planning use* it.." Chapter 63: "but Rosetta has flat out refused *allowed* him to take part." "Katia added as I moved *though* the menus" "*A* felt a rush of adrenaline" Chapter 64: "I suspect *you* about to be in extreme danger. "

Melissa Glisan

Honestly cannot wait to find out what the memorial crystal reveals! The last two updates have been incredible.

Daniel Reiss

Annoying grammar correction: I believe "but Rosetta has flat out refused allowed him to take part" is supposed to be "but Rosetta had flat out refused *to* *allow* him to take part"

Matt D

It’s six. Any and all references to three throughout the entire manuscript have been eradicated

Matt Gomez

Question for Matt: in the beginning of ch 63, baroness victory tells donut about the range limit of Paint the Target. But this is right after she leaves Carl to go to the quorum. Would she still be able to send chat messages during the quorum or is this a linearity break that needs to be addressed due to moving things around?

Michael Corradini

Cant wait to see what donut does!

Lion Heart

I'm kinda thinking that Li Na is gonna end up marking a lot of these mercenaries with her ring of suffering. What are the other crawlers gonna do, let her die for them?

Grace, The Bringer of Scalpels, Queen of Fuckeryy

Hell yes. THANK YOU! Also still laughing at Fort FUPA

Craig Carey

Wow!!!

Grigorius of Tomsk, Devourer of Pop-Tarts, Victor of Many Battles

Awesome chapters, as always! <3 Quick notes: 1. "Several of the trees were on fire. ... We should get moving. We’ll be caught in this fire soon." Is this a Sheol fire or something like that? Because with Elle being an ice fairy, it feels like she'd be able to easily put out any regular kind of fire. 2. re: looting Stalwart's body. IIRC, the killer always gets the first dibs, and then the body becomes lootable for everyone else after ~5 minutes. (I might be wrong on this.) Is the time limit different, or did Carl spend 5 minutes reviving Elle? 3. Influencers undergoing surgery to look & sound like that season's most popular dead crawlers = amazing worldbuilding. :) 4. "He is *not* the one in the fancy hat. They are trying to trick you." = literal LOL. They know Donut too well. :) (Reminds me of S2E1 of The Great, where Peter the Great's body doubles get sniped whenever they try to run away, wearing his fancy imperial clothes.) 5. I want "Robots go boom." on a T-shirt. :)) 6. "These aren’t traditional traps, but actual pools of magic hidden in sealed pockets—yet another type of trap that I’ve only recently learned about." - huh, so this type of trap had never been mentioned anywhere in the Cookbook either? Way to make this sound extra-sinister! ;) 7. "the spear-wielding, Land War champion" - no need for a comma here. "Land War champion" isn't an adjective, it's the subject. (For example, you'd write "the remarkably prolific LitRPG author" and not "the remarkably prolific, LitRPG author") 8. "followed by a wet coughing, sputtering sound from Meatus." - here, you need an extra comma. 🙃 Without it, you're saying it was followed by a wet cough - and then you add "sputtering sound," which is a bit confusing. If you mean all 3 of those to be adjectives, go with "followed by a wet, coughing, sputtering sound" :) 9. Bigs "splotched into the woods with a loud whoop" - I assumed that meant she ran off, so it was odd when Carl told her "Bigs, get back to the yak" - as if she were standing in the woods and just to the side, within earshot haha 10. I assume the mysterious seeds are all the corpses Carl has collected along the way, since his "graveyard" inventory section is empty all of a sudden. Really curious to read how the flesher spell will work for them. O_o 11. "Get ready guys” - need a comma here. 🙃 (He's addressing them.)

Laura Hemly

Can someone remind me what the cheese cutters are? It's getting almost impossible to keep up with every little detail -- I seriously do not know how Matt does it!

Grigorius of Tomsk, Devourer of Pop-Tarts, Victor of Many Battles

Yeah, I miss their random banter... :')

Rane Wallin

UGH.... I NEED MORE

Treamayne

Ch 63: This part> The Dream. . . just under six hours until Dream disqualification. Conflicts with Ch 61: The Throne Room of the Dream . . . hold for three hours, the Dream will be defeated! So, 3 hours or 6? Also minor - Ch 63 Cookbook entry: Rosetta has flat out refused allowed him (to allow him?)

Sabe F.

I'm starting to worry that the audiobook is going to be an absolute mess to listen to for this one. I think rather than relying on maps, time may need to be spent firming up the spatial descriptions to be more clear. Maybe come up with a better coordinate description system, like describing the areas as how they would take up a clock face and describing how close to the edge or near to the center of the clock the action is happening. Any system would work, as long as it's a system that didn't need visual maps to get the basic firm layouts communicated. Also, is there a process where we can help you go through the manuscript and help shake out minor editorial and word choice issues? It seems so pedantic to post them in the chapter posts when these are just the rough draft.

MrHrulgin

A "Ghost Ship" would likely be a firetrap.

Katyna Smith

Very exciting! I miss Donut and Carl being together though.

Lauren J

Just like you promised 🥹

Elissa Kirk

The wily seductress that is this post is making it hard to finish off the work day 🤣. Thank you, I will be using these chapters as my silly little dopamine reward for successful adulting for the day!

Super Super Supportive Supporter

In the book, you may need to provide maps every other chapter with army locations marked as a replacement for the helpful author notes Tftcs

Stephen Greenwood

At work painting a rotor blade. Just needed to add this comment now then I'll come back later to read... It'd be super cool if there was a trap modeled off of the one in The Hobgoblin Riot" that decapitated a bunch of enemies, also referred to as a "Ghost Ship" trap.

Joshua Galaise

I dont like to post before I've read the chapter but the new chapters popped up the second I opened patreon like it was preordained. It's the little things in life

Nathan Poulson

Yesss baby yessss

Max

Look at the mad man! Three releases in two days! Is this Matt or a robot writing machine!?!?

Magic Jake

Wooo!

Bryan Clare

Perfect timing for me. Thank you!

lethalox

Nice

Tom

Sweet!

Austin Barnett

Finally 1st


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