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One Piece Episode 362 UNCUT REACTION!

🕑 Added 2024-10-10 03:54:51 +0000 UTC

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boredbeck

I would say Zoro is more of an "inverted version of a Buddhist Miyamoto Musashi/Shinigami".

boredbeck

Oda LOVES using wordplays and subtle references so im glad you pointed this all out here, its gives it so much more context...although I personally think sometimes his tendency to cram puns/references is a detriment to his storywriting, but most of the time, it gives it more gusto IMO.

ignorantWeed

Watch oda one shot Monosters on netflix

Sanji Joestar

Geez Dude you cooked!!!love the insight on the Buddhist meaning of it all!!!

klairvoyage

With One Piece – especially the fights – a good guiding principle is usually simply "The Rule of Cool" & the TLDR could be: this is just another "fire manifested from mere will, like Pearl🐐 and Sanji"-power, which incinerated Ryuma, meaning there was nothing left for the shadow to inhabit, hence why it returned to Brook. I am not the biggest fan of Zoro fights, especially "early" on, when Toei still is cheaping out on animation (I can't wait for you to get to the 2020s^^), though I do love to nerd out when it comes to religious & mythological allusions and perhaps read more into it than was initially thought out lol. And as other have already said, Zoro's abilities follow holistic, spiritual Buddhist themes & do progress within that framework. Hence why I wouldn't necessarily want to dismiss them, even if they get quite lost in "translation" / the cultural barrier. 𝐎𝐧𝐞 𝐒𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐒𝐭𝐲𝐥𝐞: 𝐅𝐥𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐃𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐨𝐧 𝐅𝐥𝐚𝐦𝐞/𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐳𝐞 (飛竜火焔, 𝐇𝐢𝐫𝐲ū 𝐊𝐚𝐞𝐧) 飛 (Hi) and 竜 (Ryū) mean "Flying Dragon" (= nāga in Sanskrit), which in Buddhism, among other things, are seen as a force tied to samsara (= the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth), often associated with suffering. Ryuma – the dragon slayer – had already conquered one such great force in his life. However, in his death, he remains trapped; symbolically bound in samsara by being forced to fight in this shameful, undead state. 火焔 (Kaen), means "Blaze/Flame", with fire in Buddhist symbolism representing purification & often being used for spiritual cleansing & the overcoming of worldly desires (known as Klesha Nashana Kriya or Goma/護摩 in Japan). When Zoro defeats Ryuma with the "Flying Dragon Blaze", the fire that engulfs Ryuma’s body can be seen as a purifying flame, releasing Ryuma from the dishonor of his undead state & cleansing of his spirit, allowing his legacy to be restored. Zoro understands this deeply, which is why he tells Ryuma he will pretend the battle never happened, ensuring that Ryuma's history & honor remain untarnished. Moreover, by using an attack with the name "Flying Dragon," Zoro metaphorically takes on the role of the dragon that Ryuma once defeated (the aura dragon during Zoro's attack is the same as the one Ryuma defeated in in Oda's one-shot "Monster"). This isn’t just about Zoro winning a fight, it’s about the inheritance of Ryuma’s will and strength, even moreso apparent by Ryuma giving up his sword. The evolution of Zoro's attacks, from his "108 Pound-Ho/Cannon" in Skypiea, which transliterated to "Phoenix of 108 Kleshas" (= death & rebirth of 108 worldly desires / negative mental states)", to its evolution "Flying Dragon Blaze" now, follows a thematic line tied to Buddhist beliefs. Just as Zoro used this attack to defeat/liberate Om🧘 (ॐ) – the guy who was deeply entrenched in existential suffering & nihilism (a slave to the samsara), his "Flying Dragon Blaze" purges Ryuma from his undead state, restoring his spirit and honor, by breaking the samsara cycle in a similar fashion. 𝐓𝐋𝐃𝐑; 𝐙𝐨𝐫𝐨 𝐢𝐬 𝐁𝐮𝐝𝐝𝐡𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐒𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬 (pls correct me if I'm wrong on any of the Buddhist stuff)

Dariusz Rosiak

Now you can calmly watch Oda's one-shot 'Monsters' :)

Monkey D. Lucci

Animation could’ve pop-off here like with the previous episode or the Zoro vs T-Bone episode. But its fine ig

Sonicluis

You guys should check out the monster special, but maybe after this arc so it doesn’t slow the momentum

Martin Hagen

I interpreted it the same as you, Zoro lit him on fire with his attack

EOussama

I like when fights have more silence than yap, usually most of Zoro's fights. So tragic how an honorable swordsman with a legendary name gets resurrected as a zombie only to be trashed.

Chriz

Watch “Monsters” it’s a short story about Ryuma!

boredbeck

Mine is a bit different lol, its more on Zoro's side...but yeah, i think thats the best way to look at Ryuma's death

ChocoBoshi

I was gonna include my headcanon in my comment and it also included his spirit being part of the reason for the fire too XD

boredbeck

I have some thoughts about why Ryuma caught fire, but it might be theory-ish that might also hint stuff (its a headcanon so not really but dont wanna say just to be safe)...so I'll just say from my interpretation that Ryuma's "spirit" leaked out in form of a fire becoz of his wound (and Zoro's attack is named Soaring Dragon Blaze...so it might be that)

Sanji Joestar

Love the respect Zoro has to Ryuma as a fellow swordsman

Sanji Joestar

Love the fight Quick and efficient Fire even, pun intended For the reason why it happened as far as the informations you got, this is something new Zoro hasn't done before. On the top of my mind about where you guys are at, i recall when he defeated Mr5 in Little Garden using the fire Usopp lit to slash him using '' Yaki Oni Giri/Burning Oni Giri ''. He mentioned that the idea of a flaming sword isn't so bad. Here he uses his arm to strengthen the other and deliver a blow that caused flames to burst, with the image of a dragon accompanying him.(Flying Dragon Blaze/Hiryu Kaen) Like other comments mentioned many of his techniques have Buddhist attributes and thematics to them too. I'm not well versed in that to give more insight however. You're free to interpret it your way.

ChocoBoshi

@Luther, thats a good point, ill edit my original post a bit

Lūthér Hölâyèãhmé

Zoro is seemingly developing powers based on Buddhist demons

Envyus

Of Course Ryuma likes thrusts, he has Brook's Shadow.

ChocoBoshi

Regarding the blue flames, as far as I'm aware it isn't clear why *exactly* that happened. It may be an unsatisfying answer but its just one of those things that's a bit vague. There is the fact that Sandai Kitetsu's hamon is a flame pattern (though I'm pretty sure he uses Wado Ichimonji for this and all of his one sword style attacks). As well as what Luther brings up bellow that Zoro's character and style are all very inspired by Buddhism in many ways (His Asura attack in Enies Lobby is among the most obvious).

SwaggyMan

I highly recommend watching Monsters: 103 Mercies Dragon Damnation. It’s a single 25 minute episode worth watching

ChocoBoshi

You've already gotten a couple comments regarding it and I'm sure you'll get quite a few more during this arc but, just to clarify, there's a one episode special (~25 minutes) called "Monsters: 103 mercies Dragon Damnation" that you can now watch on Netflix. It was written by Oda before he started One Piece and is now considered canonical to the One Piece world and lore. If you had plans to stop after this arc and catch up on any fillers you skipped that you wanted to check out or even watch the 6th One Piece movie "Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island" which is also highly requested, then would be a great time to also watch that.