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B3C2 - Old Friends, New Allies

🕑 Added 2023-05-10 02:03:48 +0000 UTC

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M Afxarr

I’d taken a big break to accumulate some chapters while I read some new stuff and This is what I came back to??! Damn what a good chapter! Great to see Dove back and it’s pretty funny , his current predicament. But logical. And he’s still a perve 😆.Glad to see Tyron being a bit more ruthless. Looking forward to reading the other chapters. Thank you RinoZ

Vash119

I saw some comments before I read the chapter and while I can see how dove being brought back runs people the wrong way, it did not happen the way I thought but honestly I think it’s a great and logical method of keeping a well liked character around.

BelligerentGnu

Everyone's talking about Dove, and I'm just debating whether I want to keep reading after the MC mind-raped a hapless minion into self mutilating. No, I don't care that it was 'easily healed'. MC seems to have left all charitable instincts with his parents' corpses, and that altruistic impulse was a lot of what made him appealing as a character.

Spam Spamalot

Even if Dove is the first and only character to be brought back it will constantly cheapen any tension placed on the side characters in the future. Also is he just going to not yearn for death anymore? Like it or not that was a core part of his character. Not to mention a core part of Tyron’s arc has been this decent into loneliness and separation from humanity. Idk I really hate it and think it’s the cheap easy option.

Ryder-09

I mean, I dont think Yor gives a fuck about what Dove wants. She probably finds even more enjoyment from nabbing Dove's soul because all he wanted was freedom.

NoodleGod

Huh... Weird. I trust ya though

ManguKing

This just shows hownhreat gonna job you did in making dove so likeable. Had people have any dislike for the guy? His returned would have been the end of the novel lol it's all a matter of perception

Panchonki

I had utterly forgotten that they are presented as necromantic experts, maybe due to it never being a thing in the interactions between Yor and Ty.

Panchonki

Absolutely so. However, we as readers are given a framework by which every art in the story works by. Every case of handwaving cheapens the effort of establishing these tools of immersion. In this case; Either we are to believe Tyrions efforts, his strife, during the fighting ascent matter or they do not. We do not see where Yor is by the end of the last book. She has acted to save Tyrions life when close at hand previously, thus her absence has weight. A chance to bind him in heavy debt is previously tantalising. So either far away, making her timed soulsnatching more unlikely or close by but un-acting, creating other issues. It is similar to assuming the parents didn't just show up due to happenstance of timing, if his misery were suffered with safetynets ready as soon as he would suffer what couldn't be healed all the tension of the chase evaporates into a cheap trick. Convenience is a word given more credence by Yor having shown powers related to Strength, Speed, Hypnosis and elevated senses, fueled by blood previously ingested. Nothing related to soul manipulation, ever. We're shown revenants and ghosts are finicky things to bind, so far losing much personality in the process. Is it not seemingly hand-waved when no clue to her necromantic proficiency was given before this not unconvinient moment?

Forrest Ogden

I don't think Dove's return is a bad thing at all. How some think it makes the story cheap, I couldn't say. It sounds like they're taking it personally. Yes, it does soften the Valor that came with his original death but his character type absolutely suits the way he's yanked around by his soul. I don't think takes much to appreciate the comical gesture that is Dove's character. Whether it is or not, I like to see his role as a stereotyped add-in done very well. This may just be for justifications sake but people in the comments have said it, Yor as a vampire had the ability to accomplish such a feat and he would make an excellent bargaining chip in Yor's(not the vampires) favor held against Lukas. All in all I believe the return is credible and, not that I'm saying it is, but nothings wrong with a sprinkle of something along the lines of fan service. Keep it up Rinoz, you're the shit.

Icharris

I think it makes sense he came back. I wouldn’t of liked it if Tyron did it. That would be cheap. But now dove is truly a slave (being enslaved by someone who doesn’t care about him). Doesn’t feel cheap to me. Was maybe a bit quick and sudden. Would of felt more appropriate if it was found out quite a bit later that Yor was imprisoning dove and this causes some drama between her and Tyron. Way it was revealed was kinda nonchalant but not awful.

Icharris

Vampires are undead themselves? It said they are the greatest necromancy experts when Yor was first introduced. She also said who else better to teach a young necromancer than the court.

Jon Contego

When does Dove get to become an undead summoner? Becoming one of Tyron’s Undead Generals or something like that would be awesome!

alt31415

Convenient? This series is literally about necromancy and soul manipulation.

Sly Lyon

*Convenient*

Panchonki

I'm torn. On the one hand, I do really like Dove as a character. On the other, convenient ressurection is a slippery slope.

Nathan Patrick

I enjoy having our beloved Dove returned to us however I more enjoy how he was brought back by Yor out of spite rather than making Tyron go back on his word.

Lothor

Dove's return and the way he's been "handled" made my day ^^

Nathan Quitugua

Alot of people dont seem to like the return of Dove but honestly it makes sense. Keep pissing off a vampire who has demonstrated the ability to capture and consume souls, then a consequence of that is that she probably doesnt want you to go peacefully, plus he also becomes a bargaining chip for her on Tyron. Additionally, it was already pretty traumatic with his parents' death as well as childhood friends granted they were trying to kill him but still, it would affect your psyche. Like aside from his uncle and aunt, Tyron has no more connections to his hometown left.

lenkite

Not at all a fan of Dove coming back. He wanted to Rest, made a great deal about wanting to move on, not wanting to exist as a skull - Tyron did so at the end of the last book and now suddenly he is back as a [Slave]. Completely cheapens the story, sadly. Also - since when did the vampire become a [Necromancer] ? We saw no hint of that.


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