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Revamping the mnemonic medium around reader control

🕑 Added 2021-08-25 02:44:13 +0000 UTC

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Ruben Artus

I wonder if a social layer of this could be that interaction between people of different levels of knowledge about a topic is facilitated. E.g. a person who read an interactive book should explain a topic from the first chapter to a person who is right now reading that part of the book. And there is some kind of back and forth happening to deepen the topic or clarify. Aligned with the idea that the best way to learn is to teach/explain others.

Ah yes, I see what you mean that it's tricky indeed to "diff intent." Even exact overlaps in highlighted text do not necessarily signify that the intent between the annotation of the author is the same as that of the reader's; it is even messier when considering partial overlaps.

Andy Matuschak

Thanks for this note! Ozzie prototyped something along the lines of this workflow. One surprising challenge was the need to "reconcile" or "diff," as I described in the post. Basically: many of the key bits you highlight/annotate are likely to have author-associated prompts with them. So now you're facing a list of annotations and author prompts, and you have to compute something like a set difference: which annotations *do not* have author prompts? Somewhat more subtly: which of the author-provided prompts intersecting my annotations capture the intent of my highlight, and which do not? Tricky.

The model that I came up with in my mind as I read this essay goes something like this: - Read through text without any embedded prompts - Highlight parts that I find relevant; annotate them (logged to Orbit) - At end of essay, click "Review" button - A full-window interface (preferably a same-site modal) pops up and shows me my highlights and annotations - AND it cleverly shows me the parts where the author chose to add prompts (so in this way, authors need to add prompts to specific parts of the text), next to my own highlights and annotations - (Perhaps, with some ML, I'm also shown prompts that others who are like me have saved. But I'd personally prefer if these were shown only when the model has high confidence, to reduce noise. I think of Kindle popular highlights) - I (reader) am given control to ultimately decide the prompt I want to keep for remembering via spaced repetition I think this model came together in my mind the moment I read about Taylor Rogalski's metaphor of the Google Doc copy-and-edit-with-impunity. That's a great metaphor! Thanks for writing this essay, Andy!

Andy Matuschak

Yes, crowdsourcing is quite an interesting approach on this problem. One angle I'm unclear about: how important is it to have a consistent author of the prompts for a given work (whether that's the original author or a single coherent "annotator"?) Is it more like Wikipedia or the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy?

Andy Matuschak

Yes, it would certainly be nice to improve the complex workflow here. Thanks for sharing your experiences, Hana!

Besides authors and readers, another place to have some control over the prompts could be in a curated crowd mechanism. Maybe readers could place their own prompts (in addition to any the authors provides), and after a while passages that are linked to a lot of prompts get the attention of a curator who presumably sees a (or several) theme in the cards reader have been placing and crafts a one or more good prompts for that section (maybe he can also see the review performance of readers to see which prompts have been working well). Readers who had already made cards are alerted and able to swap their card for the curated one, while new readers are then offered the option to collect the curated card instead of their own (the curated prompt might replace an author prompt if that wasn't doing a good job). Then neither the reader nor the author needs to be particularly skilled at crafting prompts, they just need to provide a starting point for the curator to work from.

Andy Matuschak

Definitely! I think it'd be really interesting to accompany fine-grained memory prompts with broader "try to explain this concept" tasks.

Andy Matuschak

This really resonates, Chris. You're right that in practice, my reading is so often iterative, spirally…

Andy Matuschak

Yes, I think that's right. It's basically a very lightweight, generally embeddable ITS. Makes sense to try to increase that scope…

Andy Matuschak

Gosh, yes, this is absolutely right. It connects to the notion of "salience prompts," which I find fascinating… but which I haven't yet figured out how to characterize.

From my own work flow as a student researcher, I've found that tools attached to my reading all come from some kind of annotation of a digitial text that I can process later. They either take the form of 1) an anki prompt 2) a literature note with an associated excerpt that I'll later export to my Zettlekasten note library or 3) some kind of prompt for the Feynman technique. I think when it comes to generating user interaction with the interface, I think that it's worthwhile to give the user options with what to do with the prompts later. There can be a wider array of tasks that you can schedule in order to integrate an idea from a text into your own thinking. For now I use a cumbersome combination of several apps for different purposes when I am reading (iBooks to annotate, Zotero, Obsidian, Anki Notes, GoodNotes for Feynman). It would be helpful to have a centralized interface all these future activities can be efficiently prepared when one first encounters the text.

Perhaps a helpful reminder is to consider the underbelly of genuine “understanding”; viz., the Feynman Learning Technique. The facility to teach, simply; to apply, dynamically, and extend, contextually. If we cannot teach “it,” we cannot use “it”. And if we cannot use it, we aren’t learning, we are memorizing. Nothing new here, but sometimes the most powerful insights hide in plain sight. Cheers.

The way you discuss the process of entering things into Orbit implies to me that after you do it, you’ve sort of mined the source of what it has. I wonder what this process would look like if you emphasized provenance, and allowing users to return to sources from which they picked up one card in order to find a few more. Definitely as a reader, I would feel more free to filter out unimportant ideas if I thought I could always return to them.

I'm inclined to agree re ML. Hopefully it'll get there eventually, but for now. The comparison of tutors and books suggests to me that eventually an evolution of the mnemonic medium is a pedagogic medium broadly (What aspects of learning are not covered in the current system?). The initial iteration was "embedded curated flashcards", but once one opens the floodgates of returning control to the reader, and enable a more fluid conversation with the author via editing (And potentially, other users via suggestions), one can then expand to something that may well cover what a digital tutoring system may aim to do, if the system truly gets what a given reader needs.

This would indeed be ideal. Part of venturing into a new literature is figuring out what matters or not, and right now this works by either someone telling you or reading enough that you can patternmatch your way through. But at the same time it's something very personal! Different people have different goals for what they read. Following the CoM metaphor, the CoM would have a very detailed model of you and what you tend to find useful or not. What comes to mind is some form of social recommendation system where you get "users like you wanted to remember this or that" reminders.

Benjamin Reinhardt

The one piece I'd add to the "Chief of Memory" metaphor (which I love) is that you want the CoM to whisper in your ear whenever it's relevant for you to remember the things that you had come across previously. Wealthy and powerful people have advisors who whisper in their ears for a reason! This function is, of course, the goal of spaced repetition but I think it's important to call it out instead of seeing prompts as the final goal.


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