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Pay Attention! (w/ Chris Hayes)

🕑 Added 2025-02-18 16:30:45 +0000 UTC

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Gene Bailey

Chris is one of the good ones, this episode is a great listen

Daniel

No way Elon is a genius. Everyone needs to stop with this myth. He’s a very fortune psychopath.

Kent Miller

Despite refs to Odysseus and Marx, discussion felt oddly ahistoric. 2-3 centuries past, workers were regularly buzzed. Talk about lack of attention! Whereas jobs today require much focus. Workers don’t booze but caffeinate. Fancy that: three guys discussing boredom without reference to child-rearing and housework. Finally I note the folk belief, especially widespread among over-educated right wingers, of superior attention as a benefit of autism. Still mulling why this is so.

Vincent

Thanks for the Scialabba rec! Reading it now

Behold 666

So much fawning over…Chris Hayes. There’s something utterly perverse that someone like him would write a book like this.

Kevin Price

I feel the same way about the bath. Get my best reading and thinking done there

Kevin Price

The purity of the heart is the will to do only one thing (get off your phone)

Elizabeth Chung

I suppose that the adjective helps people save time when it is shape shifting constantly to stay under the radar when possible. I notice that many libertarians seem to think that they will discover some strain of capitalism that will actually work as they imagine. I liked the Ayn Rand episode where Burns mentioned how the very excesses of capitalism that disturbed most proponents delighted Rand as virtues. I suppose that is why we see it tagged so often with an adjective. I will endure anything to get rid of it.

Jake

Chris’ anecdote about the pull of the phone, no matter how fleeting, while sitting with his child was very affecting.

Peter Carlen

This should be 3 hours long, I need more diversion

Peter Carlen

It is stunning how much more thoughtful Chris Hayes is compared to every other TV host

Tim Combes

I teach ninth grade English at a low income high school and my number one anxiety about the future is the attention span of these kids who will one day be the adults. The amount of mental pacification these kids require at all times can be very frustrating

Elizabeth Chung

So I have resisted the phone except in its traditional role of Hello/Goodbye device. I spend too much time on the laptop true, but suddenly the phone has really aggressed with the insistance of text codes. All of this is my business, my accounts, my cards. I do not wish to swear fealty to my phone, send me an email. I am satisfied with my laptop and have no desire to use my time and my attention fooling around with the phone.

Know Your Enemy

beautiful

Gene Bailey

It’s a frustrating listen, but worthwhile bc his guest (Jake Auchincloss) is representative of a certain type of Dem lawmaker (abundance agenda-pilled, very hawkish/nat sec-oriented on FP and actually co-wrote the congressional TikTok ban, enamored with the idea of privatizing elements of the public sector for nebulous efficiency reasons, etc). What peeved me most is Auchincloss’s Hofstadter-pilled interpretation of “populism”…implying that populist political uprisings are inherently problematic for liberal democracies.

James Talley

Have only watched TV for self-admitted fiction for decades now. I've been aware of Hayes, of course, but had no take on him beyond "seems to be a good guy" and "married well." Thought his book would be, yes, an airport title, and after this, dammit, I'll be buying and reading, so impressive was this episode. (I'm already so behind on my TBR stack, and yes, you KYE boys are very much to blame for that. Curses and thanks!)

Jenna Harmon

WHOA NEW MAX LORE JUST DROPPED!!

Know Your Enemy

lol why?

Gene Bailey

Sam might have an aneurism if he listens to Ezra Klein’s new pod

Robert Mullins

Re the flow state of manual work, I thought of this passage from Silas Marner: "He seemed to weave, like the spider, from pure impulse, without reflection. Every man's work, pursued steadily, tends in this way to become an end in itself, and so to bridge over the loveless chasms of life."

Kelley

I think using the word “based” would probably result in me reduced to a puddle, a la the wicked witch.

Joel

I'm gonna try to keep an open mind heading into this ep, but, I've gotta say that I'm pretty fatigued with "_____ capitalism" formulations - surveillance capitalism, platform capitalism, etc. I know there are sophisticated debates in contemporary Marxism that are a bit too elevated for me to articulate about this, but, basically, I think some of the critics of so-called "adjective capitalism" have a point. This is still capitalism, and the constant push to mint these new forms of it feels a bit fatiguing.

Chad Bailey

Great talk again! I have never been an MSNBC watcher, but Chris definitely caught my ATTENTION. 😱 My friend who is now a Dominican priest and theology professor wrote his doctoral thesis on Aquinas’ views on emotions. He found that the idea of “boredom” is a product of the modern world itself.

Paul Bowman

24-ish minutes in, and right now i just wanna be the friend who gets to hang out with Sam and Hannah once in a while

Keith Morse

OK, the share of my podcast subscriptions that Hayes has now hit is approaching 100%. I might be in a bubble, folks. I'm genuinely sad I missed his stop on the book tour in Boston with Lawrence Lessig. I've been thinking a lot about the information theory concept of "garbage in, garbage out." I wonder if the fact that so much of the modern media ecosystem functionally works as a misinformation engine, means that political outcomes of this system are like drinking from a poisoned well.

Zachary Roussie

I think the word you’re looking for is “based”

Kelley

I’m really impressed by Hayes here. I sometimes have heard him on MSNBC through YouTube clips, but I didn’t realize he was as … let’s say enlightened? On Marx/socialist rhetoric as he seems to be. Pleasantly surprised and hoping he has some influence on the “normie” news consumer.

Julia

I listen to podcasts while I cook! Can't do any of that in the pottery studio though.

Kelley

I agree so much. I also listen to podcasts and audiobooks obsessively and I took up crochet to feel more productive. Now I have more amigurumi and baby blankets than I know what to do with!

genrepunk

I do my best thinking in the shower, because I know there's nothing pulling at my attention but showering itself and my thoughts. It's wild that that's the only place in my life where that's consistently true.

Know Your Enemy

I love that Julia, and find doing "tactile" things really helps—cooking is one of those things for me. There's also the satisfaction of "look, I made something" that email jobs often don't provide. Take care (Matt)

tippy

didnt know who cris hayes was before this ep, what a great voice. another banger ep in a long string of back to back bangers!! maybe ill finally start reading pachinko….

Julia

I started taking pottery classes a year ago. I have an extremely active inner life (as I'm sure many listeners do) and I'm always listening to a podcast/audiobook/reading/scrolling or even having arguments internally. For a few hours a week though I can just focus on doing something with my hands, it's a great detox. Currently I'm trying to listen but taking a break because there's a large industrial fire in my town and I can't stop looking for updates!