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How Republics End (w/ Mike Duncan)

🕑 Added 2025-01-28 12:01:52 +0000 UTC

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Nimportequi

I love love love Mike Duncan. I’ve spent so much time listening to him it’s insane. Also, it was to a large part thanks to the hundreds of hours of listening to him that I realized I’m actually a leftie and not a liberal.

Chad Bailey

I think I figured out what Elon might be up to…. Bad, but maybe not for the reasons we first feared. https://open.substack.com/pub/chadbailey291184/p/gaming-out-scenarios-for-doge-impacts?r=4j5qp&utm_medium=ios

Brooke Chappell

Mike Duncan @ 48:58: “One of the things we have going for us right now is that there is a central treasury that pays the armed forces…Elon Musk cannot command an army.” :(

Martin Oswald

Great stuff! I know it's cliche but it's striking how closely Plato is dead on with his description of the Tyrant as it relates to Trump with emphasis on erotic desire, impulses, and the ego (colloquial sense). Chinese history is also super interesting for the changes in dynasties like the transition between the Ming & Qing periods.

Boksberger

Wowowow - need more of this. Please.

Stephen Caruso

The crossover I didn't know I needed. Loved Mike's point about norms.

his eyes just tell him lies

Disaster Nationalism with Richard Seymour. Just saying.

Mike Dugan

This was so cool - Mike is the podcasting GOAT, everything is so digestible. Storm before the storm is an awesome book.

Sam

Hello Matthew. Can you please ask Michael the following question : “hello. when the goths invaded Rome did any of the goth girls step on any Roman mens faces. And is there any ancient paintings of it? Thank you.”

Paul Bowman

Have you guys done any sort of South Bend-classicish/Poundbury/Trump-GSA episode yet? Maybe I’m forgetting. Apologies, this is my brain on Rome. Noodling at edges of the thing a few years back, making myself ill: https://pdbowman.studio/quareidfaciam/among-the-nazis/

erik w bjorke

Check out the History of Byzantium podcast if you get to the end of Duncan’s podcast and want more Roman history.

erik w bjorke

Roman citizenship and Roman identity become so expansive that they don’t even require the city itself to be sustained.

Adriano Iqbal

the mike duncan / kye crossover is legitimately a dream come true. i'm so used to mike in the solo / monologue register that it's just like . . . interesting to hear him have a conversation.

Tim Combes

I misread this title as “How Republicans End” and was like FUCK YEAH. (I still give the real topic a lower case fuck yeah tho)

Odella

Mike Duncan is an absolute hero #1 podcaster

Brendan Kane

As someone very late to getting into Revolutions as I'm currently working me way through it, this episode was a real thrill! And certainly convinced to pick up The Storm before the Storm sooner rather than later as this whole discussion was fascinating

Greg Baltz

Best crossover since Urkel was on Full House. You could have a great follow up with Mike discussing Sam’s Beautiful Losers article

Chad Bailey

Mike Duncan is ALWAYS a tour de force. Two of the best podcasters here talking was like a preview of paradise.

erik w bjorke

Holy crap!!! More Revolutions!!! Cuban!!! Iranian!!!

Kyle Mitchell

He’s phenomenal. Rich storyteller

Sam

Damn, now I have to hear a whole Roman podcast this guy is aweosme

Axel Herrera

To me the human nature/condition claim is spot-on (including Matt’s clarification). The more I read of history, the more I’m convinced of its accuracy. I agree he could’ve said more about the decadence claim though. Even though some right wingers themselves typify the decadence as deviant sexuality. (Cf. leftists who liken America to Rome as an empire about to collapse also speaking of decadence, though obviously focusing on different examples).

Chad Bailey

MIKE DUNCAN!! Haven’t even started the interview and already I’m head over heels!

Kyle Mitchell

Wow my two favorite podcasts crossing over!! Woo!

mjs

Fixed, thanks!

Craig Lammes

I listened to Revolutions compulsively several years ago. Upon hearing Mike's voice, I had a very fond pavlovian reaction!

Nick Wood

Mike Duncan is one of the greatest podcasters ever — maybe one of the best public educators as well. I’m so excited for this

caku

FYI typo in the description, it misstates Mike's book as "The *Story* Before the Storm" instead of "Storm Before the Storm"

John grant

the one good notification on my phone this morning

Nnnnnn

Was a bit disappointed by Duncan’s analysis. Was hoping for a more rigorous grappling with these historical analogies pedaled by the right. But he seemed to be strawmanning them. The fall of the Roman Empire was because of homosexuals? I don’t think that’s really what they means— it’s a kind of shorthand for a Weimar style decline into ‘decadence’. Would’ve been much more interesting and useful to really tear into that. And his perennial position on human nature— totally ahistorical. Nonetheless interesting overall. Thanks y’all

edward ripple

OMG. This is super. There are so many threads History Podcaster God Michael Duncan is pulling out here you could make a sweater. kid and I are huge MD fans! Thanks

Know Your Enemy

Revolutions is basically my favorite podcast, for all the reasons (plus more!) that you mention! (Matt)

Weston Awtry

My favorite podcasts coming together. I cannot recommend Revolutions enough (I know this is more about Rome, that one is great, too). Revolutions honestly changed the way I see our modern world, Mike does such a great job of going in depth but also keeping a narrative going that makes it feel like you are listening to a story. I had never studied the French Revolution, so Mike's season on it had my jaw on the floor.

Know Your Enemy

Speaking for myself, I think "this kind of episode" is one we're inclined to do more of in the months and years ahead—conversations that range widely and just try to get us to think in more interesting and creative ways, ideally! (Matt)

Paul Lemaire

Thank you, love this kind of episode. I have been thinking this podcast can always use some venturing outside of its prescribed era and geography of interest. Given the right’s history, myths and references obviously have much deeper roots than just the National Review and anti-New Deal reaction. Since ancient Rome was broadly covered in this episode, what about an episode on the other conservative history nerd obsession, our own “elders” the US founding fathers (who were fascinated with ancient Rome themselves)? Which would perhaps be an occasion to address some liberals’ bizarre and somewhat misplaced lionization of Hamilton as some kind of progressive hero (reading a fascinating book on Hamilton by William Hogeland, who lays out a very detailed counterpoint to the narrative underpinning the musical). Or a look at the origins of conservatism circa late 1700s and early 1800s (French Revolution, Edmund Burke, Chateaubriand…). Anyhow, AVE KYE

SchemaThings

2 of my favorite pods collide!

Richard Marshall

Know Your Enemy x History of Rome! Christmas came late (or early!) this year!

mjs

It’s funny I was just thinking about this possibility (Matt)

Ann K

Oh this is so good!! Also- would love to see an episode on McKinley at some point given Trump’s obsession. I hadn’t thought about McKinley since the 9th grade, who on earth told Trump about him??