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Chapter 505: Upper Hand

🕑 Added 2025-01-17 18:00:10 +0000 UTC

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Ernestas Andrulis

I dont see it ending in this volume 😁 after book 11 I was sure 12 will be the last for sure

Robert Jang

The biggest confusion I have is when Arthur cut Agrona from fate. Does this mean that Agrona is truly separated from it and killing him has no consequence? Also, I still really dislike bringing him back, I really prefer the crazy dictator just dying pathetically as all deserve to...

Super Specter

Really hoping turtle goes this route. It'll dampin the weight of this screw up from arthur

Johannes

Then on the other hand, while being in the relic tombs he saw an aspect of aether that could bring back lives. If he gains insight into that aspect he won't need the pearl anyway.

Bernardo De Cabrio

So...I guess me waiting for more than one chapter to be out paid off greatly for me. Having the two POVs at the same time feels like seeing both events playing out at the same time, doubling the impact. From the very beginning I had this afterthought, that maybe Agrona never really showed himself and that he sits at the heart of his fortress pulling the strings (ironically). Reason being the chains on the body-double's horns. I don't remember if I ever voiced this thought but the very first time Agrona "appears", when those chains are being described I immediately thought they have some kind of purpose besides being some weird fashion statement. It was strange and with Agrona being that good at mind manipulation the thought stayed, albeit in the background. Too bad I can't go back and check if had a comment written on that.

JohnnyBsKillz

I've been listening to Providence slowly, but it's all clicking now. Agrona has been able to manipulate fate to some degree the entire time. That's how he pulled Nico, Cecil, & Grey to the current world. He was not lying when he said he could send Nico & Cecil back, though whether he would go; through the effort to do so is doubtful. He's always been able to possess other Sovereigns, and perhaps even Vritra-blooded. When he appears in the castle wandering around unexpectedly it has to be a branch of his mind possessing a random researcher, hence the odd clothing. It also explains why he was able to show up without warning when Cecil and Nico go looking for him after Cecil finds the Hearth. He simply slips into a researcher nearby and "appears" behind them. He has absolutely achieved integration after studying Cecil, and when he was told what Arthur was doing, how he would gain control of Fate, he knew how that would function. hence why he did not go himself, but instead possessed a disposable puppet. If we see Agrona again and he has a Core, we will know it's just a puppet and not really him. Oreleth (spelling?) knew about the building aetheric pressure. He says as much when he asks to be saved from the wraiths! And he says Agrona knows too! That's one of the reasons why he was being hunted to be absorbed. My guess is that Agrona has absorbed or spent all of the Sovereigns after the end of the book, but has also achieved integration or is perhaps in the process of when the first mana draining pulse goes out. It was mentioned by the Sovereign that Agrona consumed the mana of half of the Alacryn population while he established the nation and setup his experiments. His end game has always been absorbing the entire continent's mana. Perhaps he is amassing that much power to pull Epheotus back into the world, or perhaps he sided with the Djinn and Fate years ago, and plans to burst the building Aetheric bubble. Perhaps the revelation that drove him to betray Kezess was the knowledge of the bubble, not of what Kezess did to the Djinn.

Jacob S

The waste of the pearl will, without question, come back to bite him. Arthur’s now guaranteed to lose someone whom he could have saved with it… If Arthur had returned to Alacrya like he had planned, for even just a minute, he could have found out Agrona was back, stronger than ever, without wasting the last pearl. Instead he wasted days on a hunt, for a boon he didn’t even want. Man for someone ending the series on vol. 12, this sure is being dragged out.

Michael

Fuck not only did Agrona escape but he also blew a mourning pearl on a nobody. Damn dude. It’s good that they know Agrona is still at large but man what a massive waste. Hopefully no one close to Arthur is at deaths door anytime soon

Darkknight177

From last chapter: “No, but I do know other things. Agrona is thousands of years old, maybe tens of thousands. He has the sharpest, most devious mind of any living being I’ve ever met. I’ve never witnessed him put himself in danger.”

Darkknight177

Im probably wrong but if the whole body double puppet thing is true then Agrona probably has been using this double the whole time while the real him is somewhere locked in the castle where no one else could get to

Duncan Rodgers

Same here.

Duncan Rodgers

But why would he need mana to reactive his actually body though did he drain the mana out of it and put it into stasis, so it couldn't be detected. If not then it must be a means for his final goal. Maybe his connection to his body-double has not been fully cut and he is collecting mana to make a portal to the land of the Asura. But what is Agrona really after. After everything he has done it is hard to imagine he wants the land of the asura itself, it seems just too petty after everthing else he has aquired.

hellothere

My guess on what's going on: Agrona gained the ability to make and control a body-double, by transforming another Vritra into looking like himself (sort of like a poly-juice potion situation), and take over this body completely (like what happened to Silvie). So when Arthur cut Khaernos' link with Agrona, he became unresponsive like a puppet whose string was cut. At same time, Agrona needed time and mana, a continent's worth of mana, to reactivate his actual body.

Nik D

Let’s goo!

Rogue

A part of me felt like this was going to happen but not like this. I figured Agrona mind escape and was trying to absorb everyone's mana to reform a new body. But this is was unnecessary eerie. Great job on Agrona's part. It fooled me

Soundd Wavess

Thatd be even more egregious i thought that fraud kez could see the future + the cell is deadass in his castle how tf could they not inly get inside but swap the bodies with a dead dude and make it out with no one noticing

Jorge A. Diaz Barreto

Probably someone already extracted Agrona from the castle and replaced him with that double.

Reddd

Great chapter

Matt Columbus

Dang Agrona playing 4D chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

Soundd Wavess

How could it not be agrona if arthur looked at agrona through the eyes of fate? When he came out of the keystone be was damn near omniscient, and could see the individual threads that connected agrona to everyone around him, especially the legacy. How could he have had the wrong guy and not noticed?

Duncan Rodgers

Well played Turtle Me well played.

Fambam15gtz

Yes

Duncan Rodgers

Yes she does.

Voror

Yes

Matthew Matsumoto

what the hell

Coleman

I forget, does his sister know he's reincarnated?

Xiroth

He’s definitely speaking through the runes like he did 30-40 chapters ago

Xiroth

Added note, Khaernos is called the “invisible sovereign” of central dominion, as “no Alacryan has seen him in decades,” or so it’s worded

Xiroth

Everything pans out story-wise, and it’s likely the case that the runes are what enables Agrona to do so, as you’ve presumed. The initial pulse stretched about halfway through the territories outside of central dominion. The second pulse reached all of Alacrya, with the exception of the farthest reaches like Maerin town (the tiny town where Arthur first entered Alacrya once leaving the relictombs in book eight). The story definitely isn’t getting too complex. TurtleMe does an unrivaled job at storytelling and we have seen much more complex in the story. He literally made Arthur go 10 full books not knowing how he was reincarnated while giving subtle hints the entire time that kept us fiending for more

Xiroth

Holy shit. This is one of two things. Either this is an agrona puppet that the “lost” or “invisible” sovereign has linked to, or Agrona hasn’t actually been agrona for a long time, the invisible sovereign having taken over his body and sequestered his original body away a long time ago

Tangge

what the f!!

Saindou

yeah, but there are some things wrong, he could have absorbed the mana of all his inhabitants but he only absorbed part of his continent, because it is said that those who did not receive this absorption effect are those who are on the coasts and shores of the continent no, what does that mean, because Arthur has indeed removed the potential of the inheritance so agrona can only absorb the mana of his people through their runes no it annoys me this story is getting complicated. but does that mean that he even cheated on fate or ....

Cal

So I guess the last chapter wasn’t just a recording…

Caleb

What the!


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