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Chapter 455: Science in the Service of Torture

🕑 Added 2026-01-20 09:24:57 +0000 UTC
Chapter 455: Science in the Service of Torture

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Samuel Sever

tftc

R. Maxwell Steele

Pretty sure hitting that would force the tier up. When Kazuki hit t2 weapons, it forced him to teir up. He's close to t3 weapons but already in teir 1.

R. Maxwell Steele

"If there’s anything you wanted to see in Tier 0 that I might have missed, now is the time to let me know in the comments!" His latest race upgrade is the biggest thing to fall flat. He gets it, and then it just kind of gets forgotten. Doesn't really experience it or expound on it.

James Sheridan

Maybe I imagined it, but I thought he had to use a resistance for his gates? It sounds like he's planning to use his pyro champion one for it

Halfcrzy

Well its probably been 3 chapters a week on average. So already been writing for 3 years in tier 0. 3 x 9 would be 27 more years at this pace. Obviously it wont be, but yea the author has stated before he realizes how long he has stayed

PyritePlunder

I have read this story from chapter one up until here over the past 3 days. Over the past 100 chapters or so, i have started becoming more and more annoyed at this story for how ridiculously, insanely long it is taking for the MC to tier up. 450+ chapters and the dude is still tier 0? Seriously? Reading the authors note about a time skip to tier 1 was like a soothing balm for me. FINALLY. To be honest, i find it a bit absurd to take this long, this many chapters, for the MC to tier up just one time. This dude has 9+ more tiers to go? At this rate we are looking at what, 5 more years of writing this story for the MC to accomplish that? Also, i found it extremely tiring that the MC has been 'preparing to tier up' and 'tempering' for literally a hundred and fifty chapters. I really like this story, but wow, get it over with already!.... I fully recognize that i sound overly critical here, but i want to point out that these are basically my only complaints about this story. I'm here, paying to read it, because i have gained immense enjoyment from doing so. Although i have complaints, i also find many positives to this story as well. Perhaps other commenters will consider me a complainer or whatever but i feel like adding my two cents may result in a qualitative improvement of the storyline.... Anyways, thanks for reading my thoughts

Halfcrzy

I honestly was hoping to see Priam hit domain 2 before tier up. If any champion has a chance, its him. His soul has grown like an apophyocryphal. Kazuki almost hit t3 weapons before his.

Zaim İpek

He is almost certainly going to kill the 2nd terror before tier-1, so we will probably see king priam soon.

Zaim İpek

The skull temple would trigger a high tribulation, but it looks like he is already going to trigger it with Domain 2. . . so he might as well. I wonder how much time he will have from the time the high tribulation is triggered to the time it arrives. Kazuki used some treasure or system reward to delay his. Priam doesn't have such an ability to delay it, so he would need to act very quickly to get many things done in the short gap of time before tier-1. The ultimate flex would be somehow getting ACE 2 before his high-tribulation ends.

Zaim İpek

Nirvana seems impossible right now. According to the phoenix that spoke to him, Priam needs to evolve his Pyro concept to tier-2 before he can attempt it, that means the earliest it can happen is during his high tribulation. If Priam evolves/merges his concepts, that will trigger a high tribulation, then he can die during the tribulation and get nirvana. That seems to be the only way he can get it technically at tier-0. . . just barely. I actually think that might be the most optimal path for him that gets the most benefits, but the author may have something else in mind for his tier-1 advancement.

Zaim İpek

The things I most want to see while in tier-0 are 1) getting the [ageless] title 2) Fighting and killing Sumstreh. I really want this to happen before tier-1. I think it is particularly important for Priam's myth that this be done at tier-0. 3) the fights against the rest of the Valaryth terrors and the bonuses for becoming a king after he kills the 2nd terror. 4) One more big upgrade purchase for Logarhythm so that it will be better prepared for it's upcoming tribulation. On that topic, it would be cool to see Logarhythm's upcoming tribulation before hitting tier-1. 5) It seems like Priam plans to do one last Tempering before his high tribulation. For the Energy gate, I really think he needs to use either [Golden Meridians] or [Osmosis]. The ultimate energy is aether, so there is no better option than those two for tempering his energy gate. I would also like to see him temper Tribulation Hunter, possibly as the final skill to complete his tempering, but that should definitely wait until he is tier-1.

TheCommensuratePup

"If there’s anything you wanted to see in Tier 0 that I might have missed, now is the time to let me know in the comments!" Priam making out with Jasmine. Failing that I actually love seeing his leveling up & the stats associated with it, if you are gonna time skip, can you put a small training montage?

MomoDG

Jasmine got it at Legendary

ItsBeru

Nirvana, use most of the damn rewards that he is hoarding, the rank up of Aether manipulation, obviously the fight with his mentor, whatever body tempering he does, spending his sun points and possibly getting every bronze title he can get before his tier up🫡

androide

Well since a timeskip is coming here are some things that I'd like Priam to do! If possible offscreen: - Improve [Aetherist - Gold] to [Aetherist - Legendary]. It's been a very long time (297 chapters to be exact) since Priam got it at Gold so he should be able to do it. - Hack the Skull Temple once more, only alone now. - Space Resistance recast (I still think recasting is too broken. Like for example Priam needs Breath Unity to [Ideal Asphyxia Resistance - Epic] right? But if he recasts [Asphyxia Resistance - Rare] with: Breath Sage + Breath Concept + dying of Asphyxia + HEO + LiH. Priam should be able to make it Ideal Rare and then he could use 'Parent Skill of Ideal Quality' to automatically make it Ideal Epic) - [Ideal Molt] Sna knows this skill (she used it during Back in Time), so there should be no reason for her to not teach it to Priam, unless Priam doesn't want to learn it. - The Ideal Skill the Gaeshert promised Priam for letting him use the Sun Shop. Unless I misremember I don't think Priam learnt it so no reason not to. - Use the 20 Necro Core (T2) that Rohan gave Priam for something! - Unlock a few new Resistances (Torsion, Memory Manipulation, etc.). In particular [Wind Resistance] which Priam couldn't unlock before because his Constitution was sealed. - Unlock a few Bronze Titles more as T0 now that it's his last chance (I feel this is a bit 'giving Priam more titles despite already having a massive amount of them' but at the same time it just feels weird that between 3 other Champions + Sna (particularly Sna) there isn't even 1 Bronze Title Priam can't unlock) Whoa that was a bigger list than I expected... Well I hope it wasn't a bother to read --- Also I am going to throw a prediction: Priam will either choose +200 free stats points as one of his rewards for his Tribulations, and so managing to get Vivacity to 1k (for Mythic Jack of All Trades) Or Priam will use the first Merit of Jack or All Trades to both lower his Constitution (so it's easier to farm and unlock Resistances) and optimize his stats Uh... And now that I see the title of the Chapter I think it'd be really intelligent of Priam to use Sun Points to recruit some torturers, you know, people whose job is to think of ways to kill Priam creatively.

KDR

Also while we’re at it - if I understand how the Hideout works correctly then Priam should give it a go. He obviously won’t make it anywhere near as far as Jasmine but he does have the Phantom skill, Trap Detection, and Unity with Mist. Low hanging fruit rewards? And some stealth training? Even if that isn’t the focus of his build, it’s an aspect of it that he has trained. And it makes sense with his wanting to “climb every mountain” and do well in multiple areas as opposed to his fellow champions who seemingly each have specialities He should be able to get Wind Resistance or whatever it was with Kazuki’s help now Ask Sna about any bronze titles or ideal skills that are easy to acquire in T0. Ideal Molt for example even if simply for contributing to him collecting ideal skills Getting 6 legendary skills at T0? I feel like that should be possible now with how many deaths he has had and with additional Iconoclast merit Additional Movement Virtuoso levels, as well as ideal upgrades for Balance, Iron Marathon, Valaryth Swimming, and Glide Last thing… I know Priam is really attached to learning the spear… but with all these resistances and a kinetic skill it kinda makes no sense that he doesn’t do more hand to hand combat 😭 and he has Louis. Let Priam get an Unarmed Combat skill or something. I feel like in most big battles his spear had either been lost or broken anyways

GreatCabbage

Gate tempers, and I’d love to see Priam make it to monarch before the next tier!

R3ad

These is what I have for tier 0 to do list Tribs (14/19?) Sage/Unity with all concepts (2/4?) Next merits: phoenix, Ace (brain + dream/time?) Upgrade Title: TribHeart, LifeIsHard, Brainless? Use Phantom advisors Farm/spend sunpoints (+hunt necro drag for blood%) Draconic atavism at 5% (10% after skip maybe) Complete god legacy quest - Iconoclast next merits? Create reusable/better cores with mythic skill Use merit tree refund token (Refund mist merits?) Farm some non combat titles Some ideas: Give system to log-a-rhythm (with soul piece?) Conquer the moon? (Not on his own but force dome guardians into his army sent them out to the other domes)

KDR

If Esmee is sticking around Oasis until at least the reunion then I feel that Priam should farm Probability Manipulation resistance. Pretty sure he already has all the prerequisites for ideal epic. Just needs 19 levels. And it would make sense to use that for the chaos gate. I’m sure Priam could find a way to get Thaal to help with tempering for that

Baconwargod

Any gate temperings and the final PP fight I feel need to be covered. Gates can be kinda summarized but the fight probably does need to be shown

Quyan640

Now that I think about it, trials are probably a lot more useful than just training. There’s a theatrical element to a trial that could be good for a person’s story. Like the colosseum and participating in tournaments compared to casually sparring.

LucStar

It would also be interesting to see Priam returning to Proxima with the other champions to talk to Prometheus, giving him the promised methods of physical tempering and racial evolution, and perhaps that's where Esmee undergoes her racial transformation. Prometheus' scientists seem to have already created a way to do it. In addition to the conversations I mentioned earlier, it would be interesting to learn more about Prometheus' concepts and titles.

LucStar

I loved the chapters, but one thing I'd like to see before level 1 is a conversation between the champions about titles, which ones each one has and what they are, their merits, and which ones are possible to acquire quickly. It doesn't necessarily have to be new titles for Priam, but that would be cool too, but for the others as well. One thought of mine would be Jasmine, Esmee, and Kazuki completing the five tortures with Osires' help. I'm also curious about a conversation about concepts and their applications. We've already seen Priam's perspective on his concepts, but what do his friends think, and what does he think about their concepts, and what new concepts would be interesting to address for each one? Sometimes an external opinion can kickstart evolution.

Andrew

Thank you!

Im4outdoors

I just want to know if he beat the contenders from floors 95 to 100. It might be unrealistic but they are technically the worst of the best right? TFTC

James Skinner

Let's just get to tier one!

Disclancer

Unlocking ageless would be good to see before tier 1, I can't remember if it was a bronze merit at the level Jasmine got it?

Alex Kagan

Right, but haven't some characters said that the tiers go fast after you establish your base? I think it was the Aelbes who were explaining why Rohan was durdling around in tier 0 building his foundation when he could've made Transcendent in the same amount of time because of his talent etc...

AJ Priebe-Carter

Just about the only thing I want wrapped up before the reunion is the champions going back to Proxima before it. Both so Priam can give the resources Prometheus asked for(the body refining methods) and the fallout of Kazuki's wife's death.

Derze

Blank check to things I want to see prior to T1? My birthday came sooner than expected 😆. Here is a list. • Personally, I would want Priam to talk with Prometheus at least once in Proxima. Would allow Esmee to see the state of things after their Conquering and their plans for the reunion assuming it will allow cooperation. Priam can pass along both a mythic tempering method and T3 of the new race for him and get one or two things that could be useful,as well a promise for more people for Elysium post reunion. • Second thing is to talk to Maya to arrange a meeting with Luc, since they are both mercenaries. Either that or arrange one via a Merchant or something. • Aside from that, have it mentioned they have successfully tested the Memory Trap and he unlocked Memory Manipulation Ideal (unless that’s in the works for post tier 1.) • At least one brief mention of Priam buying something or his current amount of Sun points (and the current defense wave they are) (this can also tie with Prometheus visit!) •The Evolution of his Land Owner title,along with the bonuses for Duke and Prince if he unlocked them yet. Confirmation of the date ,since integration . Log-a-rhythm age/progression and their connection (could also briefly mention Dishunu visiting from time to time to check on it) • Moonie stats as a Guardian and her development (bonding moment for Esmee and Rose? Father talk lol) • A PoV of Arnold and his high tribulation (doesn’t need to be the trib,just that he has determined that he won’t beat Phoenix Prince and has tiered up) • Kala,Tyr and Eve preparing for the reunion. • Killing Sumstreh • the Merit tree for Phoenix. (Priam using the merit token or hinting use of that damn merit token) • confirmation on skills and evolutions that Priam has that he hasn’t yet unlocked the ideal version but wants to ( cof cof Smooth Scales + glide , Runic Language, Matrix Dodge, Frozen Meditation, Divination Intercepton(high evo For cipher later?) and Asphixia) • Space resistance Recast (?) • Can we get the screen for Tribulation Heroic Strike? And the what were their Ideal Req? • Ageless Title / Senescence Resistance ( could buy the blueprint from the sunshop to start )

Custus

Thanks for the chapter!

Subliminary

Not to be *that guy* but we are finally getting another minor time skip and it brings us to the precipice of Tier 1. There are 10 Tiers. This is chapter 455. The pacing needs to increase because I honestly don’t trust authors to continue stories for too many years. So so many drop and it feels like a knife to the heart

NonuvfOorbiz

Tyfc!


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