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I finished THE BEAR Season 3. Here are my thoughts

🕑 Added 2024-07-03 00:56:08 +0000 UTC

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Dan

Also, while I agree with you in regards to The Sopranos, I know some who would disagree haha. Pauline Kael loved the first season as a great dark comedy (even likening it to Prizzi’s Honor) but if she had lived to see the rest, she probably would have hated how dark and brooding the show got for the same reasons why she hated Raging Bull

Dan

And I’m with you on the banter. The show feels very influenced by the Safdies but all the funny moments in Good Time and Uncut Gems felt spontaneous, whereas the banter in the show ranges from sitcom writing to Judd Apatow improv.

Dan

The John Cena cameo was the low point for me. I was more forgiving of the cameos in S2 because I figured the actors needed extra work post-pandemic (and also their interest helped to get the show renewed) but now I feel like it’s all taking away from the “This is a show about the working class” message.

Matt C

I just watched the first episode of The Bear the other night so I can't comment much on the show specifically. But it sounds as if it may suffer from what many series do the longer they go. Oftentimes when a series starts to stall it's because they writers have an overarching narrative they're trying to complete but don't have enough material to bridge the cap between the beginning and the ending. What you get is a lot of flashbacks, as you said, and filler episodes. I think filler episodes are fine as long as the stories are good and the characters are enjoyable, but eventually the story is going to have to start moving again preferably before the last episode of the season. A TV show can definitely change the bigger it gets and the pressure to outdo previous seasons or, conversely, stay the course by giving audiences more of the same (when the story should be developing further) can turn an otherwise clever show into either a melodrama or a story of repetitive gimmicks. It's also true that when you have a living, breathing hero/heroin who is dynamic enough to walk right off the page, the character can move along faster than the plot. Thus the writers have to stall to come up with more material. The maxim of a good story has always been about a character who wants something badly and is having a difficult time getting it (oftentimes this includes some sort of internal moral dilemma). It is therefore important to give the character something to do. A proactive main character is always more interesting than a reactive one. When the external plot is spinning its wheels the emotional stakes need to be higher. That's how I feel, anyway.

Deepfocuslens

I hope so. I just feel all of what you described is too little too late, and not nearly enough legs for that particular cliffhanger to work for me. I still think it would've been more interesting had they either shifted focus, or built things more from the ground up this season, rather than meandering so long. That first episode was pure filler

Jared Angcanan

Yeah, I agree it’s not as strong as 1 because of the lack of focus. But I don’t mind the cliffhanger too much. (SPOILERS) At the start of the last episode they show Carmy’s memory of Thomas Keller, who tells him “it’s all about nurturing”. And then some of the conversations at the funeral dinner pointed to Carmy’s failure to nurture Syd and Richie at The Bear. So the review, to me, was the final signal that he had to change or lose everything - that because of his abuse, he’s forgotten Chef Keller’s lesson and been going about it the wrong way. It’s not super strongly written, and I agree, not as satisfying, but it’ll hopefully be a good pivot point for the character.

Deepfocuslens

The writing here feels aimless compared to season 1. Take Sydney's arc in the first season. She grows tremendously and learns on the job. In the second to last episode she has enough due to feeling under appreciated. But then she comes back in the end having learned a lot about her boss versus her perceptions initially. Here in season 3, she has almost the same arc, but watered down with little nuance. But...one key difference is that nothing is resolved here in the end. That final episode left us in an unsatisfying spot. It might've been acceptable had we built more of Sydney's reasoning for leaving from a personal standpoint, financially as well. But it all felt abrupt, and then in the end, we learn nothing. And we have to wait? I dunno. Feels kinda lame to me from a narrative standpoint. The narrative felt so much more organized and well designed in season 1. What should've happened, was make the finale here, the second to last episode, or perhaps third to last. Then end everything on the cliffhanger of Carmy realizing his mistakes with Sydney as she prepares to leave. That way we have a great place to start off from season 4. We don't have to do any forcing that way. And look at that?....suddenly you have resolved a bit of the Carmy arc problem too. Ending things on the bad review, didnt feel satisfying as example....because that particular story thread was shoehorned into the latter half, and then not properly built up.

Jared Angcanan

My thoughts on S3 pretty much match yours. But I was also frustrated with how stagnant the characters were in S1, and all that setup ended up really paying off in S2 (Richie’s growth, Marcus’ talent blossoming, Syd and Tina’s relationship, etc.) So I am optimistic that the show will maybe follow that pattern, so that all the conflicts happening in S3 that are currently in stasis will set up character growth in S4.

Alexandros Alexandropoulos

Very good one. Get well soon.

Wolfman Brandon

I'm not really a tv series person like I used to be. The last show I watched while it was still going was The Walking Dead and I quit during season 9 because the writing was just redundant and poorly constructed ever since season 7 and it never got better. If I watch tv now, which isn't often, it's only for sports. Now that hockey season is done, I'm waiting until October for next season along with the MLB postseason where I can see some real baseball unlike our sorry excuse of a team. Anyway, hope your injury isn't serious and you'll be better soon.

Shane Palamara

I’m on s1e8 and I’m really liking it so far. It’s like if Uncut Gems was about cooking. But the ads on Hulu are annoyingly spoiling season 3.

Bennett Oliver

Out of all the streaming channels available, the only one I don't have is Hulu. And this show is the reason that frustrates me. I suppose I should remedy that situation by springing for a subscription but unfortunately I don't really have the funds available. But someday soon I will catch up to this show. I saw enough clips of the family get-together from season 2 that make me want to. Sorry about your injury. Hope you recover soon.

Deepfocuslens

He seems great as a guy, and as a chef. But yes he never worked for me on the show. But this season he's gotten much worse. The writing isnt helping him. It doesnt even feel like writing. It's like they told all these guys to just improv their lines like a bad SNL sketch

Mees

Man, Matty Matheson’s comic relief was painfully unfunny to me from the start, glad to see it wasn’t just me. Seems like a nice guy though

Deepfocuslens

Being mis-categorized for marketing and awards season consideration, seems like a very stupid and unconvincing reason why you would suddenly change the tone of your show.

Sutil

I honestly think that the creator or writer or everyone involved in this show got offended that they were labeled a "comedy" ... (personally "who cares" right? ) but the show was awesome as it was... it was never a comedy... and the emmy's labaled them a comedy or musical show and it seems to me they got butt hurt and went all pretentious on it.... ugh... I hope humans aren't that simple and this is just my brain being weird... but that is what I believe...


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