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The Academy Awards and Their Diversity Requirements

🕑 Added 2020-09-09 19:07:05 +0000 UTC

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Michael Smith

In my opinion it just comes down choosing the lesser of two shitty options. On one hand they can take a hands-off approach, allow the pieces to fall where they may, let the strong devour the weak, and minorities continue to get shit on and ignored. On the other, they intervene, force quotas, and stifle the artists...both options suck, but such is life.

Ryan

it's just going to backfire as this crap has already been backfiring (as they say, "go woke go broke"). Instead of telling compelling stories about LBGTQ or BIPOC characters, instead, we get Ghostbusters but with women or let's replace James Bond with a black woman. Audiences will just resent Hollywood for forcing diversity down everyone's throats instead of celebrating the diversity of life by giving us movies that portray LBGTQ/BIPOC experiences.

Deepfocuslens

I disagree. I think there are other ways Hollywood could show that they are not run solely by narrow-minded, selfish, money-hungry assholes. Perhaps by changing the political narrative for winning awards that was instilled by Harvey Weinstein in the 90s.. If they truly want to be progressive and not appear hypocritical, then you can get out of the shadow of someone who as a leader, has tarnished your industry badly and return to a focus on the art itself a bit more. But nope. Let's continue in that shadow, but virtue signal in other areas out of pathetic guilt, which will only distance people more. "Woke" agendas for appearances sake is condescending and insulting to the people they think they are helping. They should encourage and shift focus, not enforce laws. That makes them just as hypocritical as the right that they shame and villanize.

Deepfocuslens

Well, it actually has to meet one or the other I think. Something about either having to have a film that meets the diversity qualifications on screen and/or behind the scenes in terms of working on set. But I'm not sure. I should read it more closely but, meh.

Michael Smith

People saying "if we had diversity requirements back then, Casablanca would be disqualified" to me is like saying "if Woodrow Wilson wasn't president then we wouldn't have won World War 1".....well yeah, maybe, but it doesn't mean things weren't shitty back then (and now) and we shouldn't try to make some changes.

Ryan

Thinking back on past Academy Award winners and some of the greatest movies ever made, how many of those films would be considered ineligible because they are not diverse enough?

Ryan

Movies will not be eligible for an Academy Award if they do not meet diversity requirements? Is that correct? If that is the case, then a movie like Barry Lyndon would not be eligible to win because it is a period piece set in Europe and all of the characters are of European ancestry. However, a film like Pootie Tang would be eligible to win because it has a racially diverse cast. How absurd.

Michael Smith

Affirmative action is a tricky subject. I used to think "affirmative action is good in all situations, the end" but as I've gotten older my opinion has become more nuanced. There are situations where affirmative action can be good: the Rooney Rule where you have to interview at least one minority before you hire a head coach; this has gotten people like Mike Tomlin and Ron Rivera jobs (75 percent white coaches to 70 percent black players where most coaches are former players). If the NFL wasn't forced to do this it would be business as usual and black/brown former players would never have a chance. On the flip side the discrimination against Asian students in the Harvard admissions process is nefarious for the opposite reason. I think it comes down to whether hiring is primarily skilled based or based on things like culture and connections. The Harvard admissions process should be based on skills so naturally admissions should be blind to race. NFL coaching hiring is not so much based on skill, and has more to do with whether you're a good face for the franchise or you get along with the owner and stupid shit like that. As a black software engineer, I would never want a company to give me a job because of my race as all that should matter is whether I can code or not. Hollywood, on the other hand, should be based on talent but it never has been...racial discrimination has been as prevalent in Hollywood as any other industry. If they don't "force" inclusion standards it will never happen. Look at The Bachelor casting the first black bachelor after years of outcry. There would have never been a non white bachelor otherwise so in a way it's good that they're pandering (even though we know that it's shameless pandering) but it's better than just not giving a fuck imo.

Emerson B

Under these rules, The Godfather and Casablanca would be ineligible for best picture but Leonard Part 6 staring Bill Cosby and M Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender would. I would like to see better representation across mass media but I think this is a silly way to go about it. Also why are employers keeping track of employee's sexual orientation? Being LGBT is considered an underrepresented class but why should your boss keep tabs on your dating/ sex life? If you want to express yourself at work, that fine but I think that's a slippery slope

Stephen

At the end of the day, this is about the Academy's desire to boost ratings. The "popular movie" award thing didn't work out so now they going in this direction to appeal to younger audiences. In the long run it's going to come down to the studios and producers if they want to help minority artists tell their stories, regardless of awards consideration. And yes agreed cancel culture isn't helping anyone right now, except people who want to make a buck off of it.

Ryan

You are preaching to the choir

Wolfman Brandon

What they don't know is that diversity in movies already exists. The independent film industry has been providing original, high quality films made by and starring women and minorities. Carol, Brooklyn, Moonlight, and The Last Black Man in San Francisco are all recent examples of excellent films with the diversity that Hollywood claims they're trying to push. All Hollywood is doing is trying to appeal to everyone and their grandparents without actually caring about or understanding the causes they claim they represent along with the terrible reboots they keep pushing. Nothing more than a marketing tactic. Indie films lead the way!!!

Deepfocuslens

Thanks. A little slapped together. But...sometimes a visceral reaction can be best.

Tyler Shobe

Nothing to add cause I agree with everything here. I just appreciate a really well thought out, passionate rant.


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