Warriors vs Kings | Preseason gm-4 |
🕑 Added 2023-10-19 20:00:51 +0000 UTC
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Childe Costa
Only one game and a preseason game at that but how can you not be amped after that performance? Obviously some very pleasant surprises, not least of which Klay mostly deferring and Trayce and Daric holding it down on D while also providing some timely offense. And along with CP3's steady hand and JCool finally learning to harness his skills, we suddenly seem much more dynamic on offense AND on defense. I dare say we have the option to go "big-enough" if necessary with Daric, Trayce, JK, Wiggs, Green, and of course Loon being rotated in/out as necessary. I also loved the mixed line-ups Kerr threw out there. Previously it was either all starters or all 2nd unit but tonight we got combinations that were both fun and effective. Last but not least, I was so relieved to see that whatever was impairing GP2's athleticism last year seems to be resolved. He was back to his old exciting self out there making a huge difference with those few minutes he was awarded. Now we need to see if Trayce/Daric can handle a real center (which flopping, knee diving Sabonis is not). Go Warriors. Go Alch!
Stevie Ray
Yeaa, fuck he looks tiny out there, I think they're zooming out a bit more this season with the camera, and he looks even smaller š
Stevie Ray
It's just an interesting new philosophy that the long 2 is a bad shot. It's a bad shot shot for 95% of the league, but there's a handful of guys, you can see it in the way they pull up and release it, the level confidence - he knew that guy couldn't guard him, and it was going in. Wiggins is never that confident from 3, he grew up before the fully developed 3 point era. I'm not saying he should never take 3s and he should take 10 17-footers a game. But there's something missing in this narrative and logic that has now dominated the paradigm. Ironically by a group that still holds Jordan as the greatest scorer of all time.
Jimmy Ji
Klay's going to test free agency, its pretty much a given at this point. Joe Lacob also said at one point in time "I fully expect Bob Myers to be back". Don't take everything he says at face value.
Mikey H
ooof. that seems like would be a problem w the new 2nd apron thingie. Lots of teams prob get stuck for a few yrs
Athletic Alchemy
They are the key to preserving the vets.. Im hyped!
Athletic Alchemy
Yesirr MP!
Athletic Alchemy
He is one of those funny builds but he throws his weight around well, good hips
Athletic Alchemy
plot twist what if contract Klay means being a better teammate and more complete player
Athletic Alchemy
My fear is he becomes such a good scorer he just isnt held as accountable on that end.. we have seen it since the beginning of time, especially with these big wing types
Athletic Alchemy
this biggest thing for JK is alertness no hiccups form one sequence to the next
Athletic Alchemy
He is the second Austin Reves, in how it went down. I think he wouldāve went early 2nd RD.. like AR they told teams donāt take me Iām not signing. And lowkey forced his way too us. Duns first ānetworkingā move
Athletic Alchemy
They corrected course šš½
Athletic Alchemy
And with CP n Dario feeding him the ball on time š
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Athletic Alchemy
After 4 3s Iām fighting over.. thatās me tho
Athletic Alchemy
Yeah I think they might be confident in what they have with him.. I expect to see him get 20 min tonight
Athletic Alchemy
I read the new tv deal might not be what was anticipated, this crop of 200 m youngsters might start looking real crazy
Athletic Alchemy
Cp defends well, guys just shoot right over the top of him tho š
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Athletic Alchemy
I think itās match up based.. Iād like to see him get into Fox body.. but he seems to like the pull-up on smaller players
Athletic Alchemy
As far as preparation and routine, I donāt think he meant minutes exactly. Will see
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Yeah that crew had a agenda
Crystal Sturdivant
Joe Lacob was on the radio and said for everyone to chill. They want him back and he wants to be back and his bet is that it gets done
Ford Carlson
Iām loving the roster, but Jesus is it sad to know this is what weāre talking about when it comes to Klay. Lessons that Iāve been hearing since 1st grade. Tough to realize we have to baby a 33 yr old
Stevie Ray
Yeaa there's a couple ideal options, it's just if Kerr would be willing to sit Klay in closing minutes and how he would respond. Because of his spacing and big shot making its understandable why he's a solidified crunch time weapon...but with Cp on the floor and Klay, a lineup where Curry is the 3rd word player seems problematic. But I agree Kuminga or GPII could be interesting in thr slot.
Ken Bradford
Id take out klay for kuminga maybe shift wiggs down a defensive position
Jacob
Wiseman gonna be out the league soon. He's trash
ACowNamedStan
I love the production we getting from everyone. The one thing that has me nervous is how the refs started calling everything for the kings. Remind me to much of last year
Sevrin Weiss
Idk if Iāve ever seen a more casual 30ft buzzer lol. Looked so chill it was insane
Reginald Payne
Steve already said that he was trying to ramp up for the season. So they will be playing 30 minutes for the last 2 (1 more now) preseason games.
Qiushi Hu
Everyone knows how to play basketball. No Wiseman, no Oubre, no JMG. So refreshing
Stevie Ray
Wiggs' 3-point shot looks like he hopes it's going in, whereas his two-point jumper looks like he knows it's going in. I know the 19-footer has been demonized by analytics but he needs to be pushed to take at least a handful of those a game. Anytime he has a guard on him he should be going for his head and that long 2 has to be a part of his arsenal in his attack.
David Katz
āDraymond must have come out of bronās cribā was so out of pocket lmfao
Stevie Ray
The calming hands of CP in 4th quarter minutes - he is the antithesis to Dray and the homerun pass. Their is a patience and an understanding for allowing a play to unfold and find when a player is open or which matchup is favorable. I'm not so sure though defensively the 1-2-3 of CP, Curry, Klay is a lineup that is going to stop anyone when it matters most.
Mikey H
whats a big??š
Mikey H
dubs lookin good. def a finesse team... & lol sabonis is sooo overated. cant believe they gave him all that $$. I guess they gotta give it to somebody so good for him
Jimmy Ji
Fair enough, I just don't think the Warriors are going to be willing to meet Klay's salary demands.
Kj Robinson
After I saw the game last night. I knew the breakdown was gonna be dopeā¦
Crystal Sturdivant
Itās a 82 game marathon. Way too early to judge someoneās year especially off preseason games
Luke Zhang
I'm impressed with Saric's juice and physicality on defense. Nice to see some pride down there banging in the post, no back down from him
Luke Zhang
Garuba feels like a guy you know what you're gonna get and can be dropped in for spot minutes over the course of a season, if I were to guess they prob wanna see the upside of TJD in the preseason more
Luke Zhang
you higher on big jim than me š let's see if he can beat out bagley in detroit
Bryan Yu
any idea why Garuba's not playing (even without Looney and Dray)? looks like Kerr is fully sold on TJD and doesn't want to give his minutes to another young guy?
bayareaglock
Davion got going from three. I like that they stayed scouting report disciplined. When the Kings went back to Mitchell for offense in the second half he wasnāt nearly as effective.
Antonio lee
Man I can feel the excitement Alch! Looking forward to the season with you. & damn, Steph has the mf juice.
NN
Looks like two timelines is back on the menu!
Offtopic K
I think wiseman will still be the better player in the end but yeah definitely better fit to be a role player
NN
I think he's gonna be a really solid piece -- and talk about hitting the ground running! Imagine him in 3 years if he improves from here...
Offtopic K
Maybe with stephās role lessened as a play maker.. heās my dark horse for mvp (with enough games played) warriors made me a believer we can win again so I expect we should have enough games won for the award
NN
I feel like we broke their spirit just like we broke the Celtics. We got their number. And thank God we finally have help for Loon in TJD. I'm shockingly in love with both rooks.
John Pettus
He was chucking in the 2nd quarter.
John Pettus
The vibes are immaculate!
Joan McErlean
With you Alch: more excited about the team and the season than Iāve been in a long time. Also, isnāt it such a relief to feel the vibes/chemistry of the team be so positive and āWarrior-likeā after last yearās tension/dissension nightmare?
Luke Zhang
Also Alch not sure if you were the one to make this point initially and Iām not even a niners fan but TJD feels like the Brock Purdy to Wisemanās Trey Lance. Almost damn near the last pick in the draft, undersized for his position, but just has every instinct for the game that the athletic freak of nature top picks lacked. Obv wonāt be playing nearly as big of a role as Purdy but the parallels are uncanny
Luke Zhang
Iām getting 21-22 vibes with the focus and energy. We went undefeated that preseason and used it as a tune up and that feels the same this year. I canāt wait to see CP and Draymond annoy the shit out of every other fanbase and then stick clutch 3s š¤£
Luke Zhang
I think thatās the give and take, thatās kinda on Kuminga to be locked in and not expect to be gifted those minutes, and I say that as someone who wants to see as much Kuminga as possible
Gary
TJD is our backup big. A revelation
Athletic Alchemy
When itās over 13 min YouTube blocks it. Streamable link will let you cast. I will have YT links whenever possible
Evan French
I thought similar, it might be an interesting competition between he and podz for minutes throughout the season, hopefully just pushes them both to be better
Austin Bishop
Shit! My B fam. Just figured it out.
Jimmy Ji
I hate to be the one to say it but this could be Klay's final season as a Warrior.
Edward Jahen
are we back to hyping up the young core yet? Jk, Moses, Podz, and Trayce have all looked great in the preseason and more importantly Pods and Trayce look good enough to get actual minutes in the regular season
Matt Hanna
I agree. Too many good point of attack defenders / wings to not have that defense be good
Sarick Shah
You can cast from patreon too?
Major Powers
Draymond Green. When you put on-ball menaces like Wiggs, GP2 and Kuminga out there with an all-time defensive floor general like Draymond behind them, plus a lot of other decent system defenders, there's no way we're not a top 10 defense.
Major Powers
Depth. Hunger. Versatility. Longer off season. All the pieces are coming together. CP3 adds a high IQ wrinkle and masterclass flops. Kuminga and Moody continue to improve. Both rooks look to be pluses so far. Saric is our new Beli but with better defense. Kontract Klay knows that sharing is caring. Draymond with extendo rest. We actually have a couple of smaller bigs to throw in the mix to ameliorate bad size match ups. The vibes are great.
Ken Bradford
I liked what I saw from Josef but I could shake the big Dudley/Ray Felton energy seeing him out there he looked a bit heavy but Iām sure his injurie has something to do with it
Andre Brooks
Most positive thing to me is that Klay had a bad shooting game and didnāt start chucking. He can be the kiss of death when he does that
Steven Jones
Itās been good to see the young guys and rooks getting some solid reps. TJD and Podz look like they could have chance to crack the rotation in the regular season especially based on matchups and resting stars. TJD looking more and more like the steal of the draft
Austin Bishop
Yo Alc, could you post the breakdowns on YT unlisted? Its nice cause I can play it on my TV, makes it more enjoyable.... Thanks UNC!
Lee Schumacher
Kumingas defense and turnovers are a concern - he was -17 :/. His team defense was weak all game, but even the on ball defense was bad early. Also, he seems to need extended playing time - he looks a lot better when he gets 30m, but if he starts like that is Kerr going to put him on shorter leash in the regular season?
Paul Hanson
That was probably the most intense pre-season game I've seen in years. Just hoping JK does better on defensive assignments AND hoping he works with Steph on his ball-handling. His offensive game is really good.
Kendrick
lmao the bron joke!
Matt Hanna
The personnel definitely seems to be there
Athletic Alchemy
they have to get on the same page, but I think we have a lot more willing defenders
Athletic Alchemy
All in all not too bad for a preseason game tho, usually you are lucky to get a half of rotation players.
e40
Btw, my seats were terrible (not a choosy beggar, tho) and I can't believe how much of the game I missed. I only suspected the refs were terrible. Wow.
Neotokyo
NIGHT NIGHT MIKE BROWN. He wanted THAT win for his boys. When kerr sat most of the starters and Mike didnāt follow suit it got REAL spicy. Boy this season is gonna be fun.
Sothea Ry
Once/if Klay can really get into a groove without forcing shots, this is truly a serious contending team.
Neal X
DO YOU SMELL, WHAT THE CHEF IS COOKING?!
Matt Hanna
Great breakdown Alch! So stoked for this upcoming season. All i keep hearing on twitter and whatnot is how the warriors defense looks like crap and we arent a championship level defense - do you agree or do you think its preseason / no draymond? Cause the kings played hard these last two games and I think our defense held up well to a high octane offense.
richard phan
Gangly! LFG
e40
I was there and the entire game was pretty low energy until the last few minutes. At about 4 minutes during a timeout Klay walked to a baseline corner while people filed out, because they thought we'd lose. I saw him look at them and I commented to the person next to me "I wonder if this motivates them (or the opposite)?" Man, the people that left sure missed a fun ending. I really enjoy watching the cam inside the tunnel. I'll note that Klay looked "focused" (I'll let you decide if that's a good word) and didn't dap anyone up on the way through the gathering players. I thought it was odd. He seemed to show very little emotion during timeouts, etc. OK, on to watch your breakdown, Alch.