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A Town Full of Babies: Queer Life and Children's Media

🕑 Added 2020-07-07 02:59:27 +0000 UTC
A Town Full of Babies: Queer Life and Children's Media

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Kelly O'Rourke

Thank you very much for writing this essay. It really brought into a focus a few things I've been feeling lately about my relationship to the media I consume, but haven't been able to verbalize. I am very fond of Steven Universe, as it helped in my early twenties to recognize that just because my family was genuinely loving and wanted the best for me didn't mean I didn't inherit or experience trauma while growing up. Even with that, though, I could never imagine insisting SU was the only media out there I could have related to or that it was the best way to do so. "When you bring adult focus to bear on art for children the results are disturbing" really hit the nail on the head for me; I see so many people online placing all of their adult needs and preoccupations on children's shows and then blowing up in anger when the show can't hold up that weight, treating it like some kind of personal betrayal. Or worse, like trotting out the most misogynistic vitriol against both real and fictional women and girls while claiming they're really looking out for the next generation. I work with kids, and the longer I do the more enraged I get that so many adults dictate the narrative around things that weren't made for them, while also twisting that narrative into something truly vile. Signed up to your patreon after reading this essay, and I look forward to reading more of your work.

Gretchen Felker-Martin

fuckin love that movie

Molly Noise

This is a perfectly succinct and cogent expression of the morass of thoughts I've had swirling in my head the last few years. Thank you. I'd also say that The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover is one of my favourite films having only seen it once last year and it's an excellent recommendation owing to its symbolic density yet surface intelligibility.

Gretchen Felker-Martin

very well-said, alex. thank you

Alex M

This essay challenged me to consider why I have such a fondness for some children's art even though I know it lacks depth. It comes down to their ability to challenge me with a message of self-love/acceptance that I struggle to accept in my day-to-day life. But this viewpoint has so much more value when added to and in contrast to more complex philosophy. Thank you for sharing this criticism, and the list of recommended art at the end!

Gretchen Felker-Martin

Molly, this is so deeply touching to me <3 and yes, absolutely, Alison is one of the greatest fucking characters in modern TV. I'll write about her sooner or later!

Molly Starr

You are a brilliant critic all the time but this and the never grow up essay are just classic poleaxing the culture moments. God I would pay hundreds of dollars for your thoughts on The Affair - I don't see many people talk about that show. I think about Ruth Wilson's character almost every day.

ziggy

TL;DR I appreciate you, please never change <3

ziggy

Gretchen, I don't have any thoughts about your brilliant essay that haven't already been said here or on Twitter, but I just wanted to give a general thank you for not only the art you create but that you share thoughtful essays like this with us, too. I've followed you for a little over a year now (I think? Quarantine has sucked away what little perception of time I had) and your insightful posts really have helped me put more of my thoughts and feelings into a clear focus when they were somewhat formless before.

Gretchen Felker-Martin

see I think season 2 is huge, just brilliant, this laying out of everything you get when you put individualist heroics ahead of mass consciousness and direct action. money went to hell, but no power really changed hands at all. season 3 dissolves into a mess and I haven't seen season 4

Ashley Lake

I'm surprised you included Mr. Robot. Maybe this is off topic, but the show felt like a kid putting on his dad's clothes (I guess that's thematic). After season 1 I just sort of hung on, but I couldn't shake my disbelief after the writers depicted the country as being somehow entirely listless and beaten after student debt was dissolved, and watching Elliot keep making worse mistakes as time went on instead of just leaving town and doing something else with his life. Similarly, the subplots became less and less articulated (like Angela's weird interview after trying to blow the whistle with federal environmental agencies) until I felt like I was watching an anime--all light, shadow, and suggestion of dark plots, but no material. Everyone seemed to lose their agency as characters and be at the mercy of a story the writers wanted to work, like action figures in a kid's hands. I gave up somewhere in season 3, so maybe I missed something that made it all worthwhile, but that was what I was left with--a story punching above its weight that couldn't shake an unintentionally naive, childlike sensibility.

Zoe

I think the problem is people want something light and fun and happy, while a good chunk of adult fiction is somewhat gray. That's why I love Wayfarers by Becky Chambers so much; it's clearly written for adults, but it's warm and happy. Great article though, I love it.

Matthew McGrorty

This is a lovely piece and definitely gives me some thinking to do (alongside a reminder to pick Hannibal back up and give Jackie Brown another watch). Looking forward to reading the rest of your stuff!

Gretchen Felker-Martin

I come from a pretty intense and damaging religious background, too, and I'm so glad this resonated with you and that you found worth in it. <3

Trevor Cushman

Thank you. Thank you for this. I have been ruminating on it and so appreciate the challenge and push to growth in it. It's also helped me frame part of my own experience in a way I was not expecting. I was raised in an intensely fundamentalist Christian world, and part of my journey out of it to radical queerness was helped by gradually finding art that was more and more transgressive. Some of what helped me grow are works that were "edgy Christian" art. While it was important for my journey and I have a nostalgic fondness for the part it played in my life, I now find it artistically null and philosophically childish. To continue to marinate in that for me would be regressive, nostalgic masturbation (at best!). Not a perfect analogy to queer children's art, as I think "edgy Christian" art is much more actively harmful, but wanted to share as I found personal resonance with that!

Kate Lacour

Ew. My kids watch a lot of SU, which I like for the nontoxic yet strong version of masculinity, emotional competence, body positivity, and gender fluidity. But it never even occurred to me to consider it as more than a kid's show. And I say this as someone who watches PeeWee on my own time. What the hell.

Isabelle Aspin

This piece is giving me a lot to think about. I work in animation and think a lot about how animation can be used to smooth out the rough edges of complicated or difficult ideas, and while sometimes that effect can be harnessed to positive ends, I don't think we as a community think enough about how it can be used to sanitize and sell shitty soft ideas to kids and adults.

Gretchen Felker-Martin

YES YES YES YES! fuck yes

Sarah F.

(Lol whoops sorry this is VeRy LoNg)

Sarah F.

Agreed on all counts. I think what makes me the most nervous about this sort of thing is that in the (understandable) battle for increased representation, the spread of these delicate, desexualized, toothless depictions of LGBTQ people in kids' media feel a bit suspect. I think it's great to introduce kids to the concept of queer love early, but it does feel like an unintended byproduct of having more LGBTQ characters in these really sexless genres is seen as enough, both by the people who make decisions for networks and some queer audiences. And I wouldn't want to take that joy away from them either, because I get it, but I worry about what's happening to queer culture at large when so many of its most well-known depictions are free of the sexuality that defines the community, not to mention the essential component of rage that came from its continued oppression. I understand the fantasy of wanting to just finally be happy and okay with yourself, but it feels like this image that's being pushed onto the LGBTQ community by media executives who are largely straight, old white people, many of whom probably remember ACT UP, but don't want young people to, because maybe then they'd learn, or remember, they still have a lot to be angry about. I love reading what you write about this stuff because of how unbelievably essential it feels to break free of this desire to be acknowledged in media created by rich people who have an active interest in silencing the oppressed that's unlikely to go away with increased demands for intersectionality. Almost everything I see come up that's supposed to be some sort of large-scale representation for the LGBTQ community just seems like this assimilationist bullshit, like Queer Eye, or Love Simon, or Drag Race, or that To Wong Foo-inspired show about going to small towns and turning randos into drag queens. Like there's this deep desire to be understood by the straight world, instead of demanding/making something better than having to be seen through their gaze, to be invited to their lame parties, when straight people so clearly wanted to be invited to ours but without being asked to sacrifice anything (or worse, trying to make themselves feel better for inflicting suffering on people they had to be told over decades were cool, or just fucking human beings). Queer people deserve so much more than kids' shows. Anyway, I'll stop myself, this subject is so rich, I could read a whole book of you talking about it.

Gretchen Felker-Martin

Thank you so much, Jeeyon! I really value your opinion in general and on this, where you're an expert, specifically.

Jeeyon Shim

I loved this, it reflects so many of my thoughts as someone who's worked extensively with kids and makes art for both children and adults. Thank you for writing it!

Gretchen Felker-Martin

I think the difference is that you CAN get nourishment from adult art, so even if you don't engage it in mature way, the potential is there, the depth and complexity are there. Trying to find your adult self by projecting onto children's media is like trying to squeeze blood from a stone.

Eve Harms

Wesferatu

This read absolutely helped me through the strange discomfort I feel around "cozy" queer ppl who can't seem to interact with me on an adult level.


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