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hello! tiers? posts? h.. hewp meh ;ω;
🕑 Added 2020-03-11 21:48:29 +0000 UTCQUICK WARNING that this isn't a really fun post or anything jerkable!!! it's me talking about real-life stuff and thinking about what sort of patreon tiers would be best and it's Kind Of Real
i haven't drawn in a hot minute. i'm doing okay! still recovering from that recent mope session! i even drew a couple times since, huh? that morgue, that feral llama vic that i'm weirdly apprehensive about posting on patreon, uhh quick detour
it was like totally sfw but i've heard patreon has cracked down on hmm, hypno and feral to the extent of like, taurs even? and like it wasn't porny and it's a sapient temporarily-transformed vic who's making a coronavirus joke but i don't wanna have anything on my patreon that seems fishy, even a link that's like CLICK HERE FOR MY FERAL THING I CAN'T POST TO PATREON lmfao
i just think it'd be a bad look to whatever poor overworked and underpaid intern if they see pic after pic of furry porn and then a feral llama drawn in the exact same style as the furry porn, look over at their badly-compressed .jpg they got emailed that has visual examples of what's against the rules, see the feral porn, and then go "ah, yeah" and click the "ban" button, you know?
so that's a reason why i just like, posted to twitter and fa and stuff and didn't mention. it was recently if you wanna check my twitter!
i'm thinking of just doing some more text posts on here from time to time, and i think that's a good segue to talking about POSSIBLE TIERS as well!
now there's something a little awkward that's happened but i just wanted to be as transparent as possible ahah. like i thought i'd talk about my whole mental process going on here as i'm thinking about tiers
i only ever intended to do things as a tip jar -- mostly coming from the thought that i'd never be organized enough to keep source files, or productive enough to stick to a schedule and be able to gate content or whatever
it's not really like a big noble goal of mine where everyone should be able to pay $1 and get access to literally everything i make. i'm not planning on ever taking anything away but like, well i'll get to it. but this is awkward because i say in my description... well, i'll just paste it, for posterity:
i thought i'd make a patreon just as kind of a tip jar. i'm not interested in having a paywall and i don't do commissions, but i was thinking of doing some patron-only stuff if folks are interested! like:
- blog posts about my characters and their world!
- small doodles and work-in-progress stuff!
- finished drawings a little early
this is awkward because it kind of reads like i'm firmly proclaiming hello yes, this is the only content that is going to be gated! iiii'm not interested in having a paywall or doing commissions!
and the thing is, that was absolutely 100% true at the time. lately though like, honestly i'd love to be able to do commissions. that's a goal of mine!
but okay the thing is like, you can't really like, take away benefits from patrons. that would be super shitty. and i don't intend on doing this! all the stuff i've posted is all $1 stuff and will continue being so, including new blog posts and porno drawings and whatever! i don't want people to even have to pay at all to see my art, and the patreon stuff is just kind of like uhh, dvd special features, you know?
so the tiers i was thinking were $1, whatever smallish range i figure out is appropriate for the largest amount of patrons, and something bigger than that. you already know the $1 tier -- this and my porno drawings and stuff is basically it. that's like, the entirety of what i've been posting
but i discussed how i might just make coupons for merch or mail stickers out to you or whatever at some point -- i'd like to silkscreen my own shirts and prints at some point! -- but i think i might reserve coupons/stickers/whatevers for the higher tiers just so i don't have to make like 30 coupons for $1 off potentially every month
maybe if i could afford to spend more time on patreon and furry stuff i'd have my own storefront site and handle my own fulfillment and do the sorta cute handmade merch i've been wanting to do, but the logistics of being able to do coupons for potentially literally every one of my patrons is like, seriously not doable for me at this point in my life
so at the risk of sounding like a complete sociopath, there has to be some kind of way to filter benefits so less people can go for it. it's like if i had a tier where i go out to eat with you -- i couldn't afford to do that with everybody so it'd have to be like at least $300 so i can drive out or whatever the fuck and also, most importantly, so i don't have to spend more time than i have every month doing it
like i'd love to spend as much time on furry porn and talking to you lovely folks and having cool and exciting benefits as i would a full time job but i just don't have the time currently, so i gotta filter it out somehow haha... so that's my reasoning for the coupons/stickers/whatevers idea i'd discussed
there's an awkward one i should have gotten to sooner though! source files.
like i mentioned in this poll here, or attached to this image here. this is the only time i've done this, but it's super awkward
i'm not sure how many of those 13 people are $1 patrons -- who i value immensely! $1 patrons are the bulk of my patrons. like the main reason i can't give all the benefits to my $1 patrons is because it would involve generating like 30 something coupons and printing 30 stickers or w/e just in case lmfao TωT so yeah i appreciate all of you!
but it's unfortunate because this could have been avoided if i'd been more business-minded (yuck) in the first place and thought about tiers and had gone like ooh free trial, and gussied it up like an aol free dialup trial or something, right? that would have been funny
but i'm not very business-minded. and it's kind of counterintuitive here because the result of being business-minded in this one particular instance would have been better to everyone, even my $1 patrons who wanted source files
like, i'm thinking of having source files be for the middle tier and up. (and maybe even something funky someday where you can get a creative commons tier if you want to make a non-commercial porn game with my art or something??)
i just hope i wasn't leading anyone on, and i hope i can make it up to you if i was and you're finding this all super uncool
like, i plan on adding stuff to the $1 tier too!! i just have patrons paying me more than $1 and i'd love to show them a little extra appreciation if possible TωT
and honestly i'm like way too nice for my own good so if you really wanna see source for a particular image you can just ask me! but that's probably a little awkward
and i still need to come up with stuff for the higher tier, but i was thinking that'd be like physical rewards, which i haven't had the emotional/mental energy to work on much hahah... tbh it could even be fun to have like V.I.P. points where every month you build up Points and can turn them in for a free thing after a while. maybe! i'll have to think about it more
but yeah, the main thing is i'm thinking about adding at least one more tier, and making source files be for the tier(s) above $1, just to show some extra appreciation for those folks
and re: posts uhh basically i was planning on posting some more lore stuff! i'd like to draw some stuff for it but i've got some fun ideas to share, i think!
like i'd like to draw more for sure but while i'm depressed i don't draw a whole lot (but it is getting better in general! and i'd like to be drawing every day soon!)
but i do still write a lot and have ideas. so i might do some text-only blog posts sometimes if you folks don't mind!
anyway, stay funky fresh
Comments
vivian torske
thank you!!! ah yeah, i would like to be as transparent as possible! that's really my main concern. it's super awkward because i wasn't even thinking about it and it's like, my core wishes to offer everything to everyone for $1 and i see my peers turning averages much higher than mine and i'm just like, ahh, dang, i'm probably fucking up. like i love all my audience and my $1 audience is my pride and joy and i appreciate them like nothing else but there honestly is currently zero motivation beyond just liking me to pay higher than $1. i'd like to give some rewards to make it a little more enticing, you know?
I’m very okay with the concept of you retroactively adjusting what you get for the $1, I would imagine most would be fine with that? Like, announce plans before hand so people have chance to see/adjust, but it should be fine I think
Roomie
I'm cool with more tiers and looking forward to it. Really looking forward to lore and text posts too 🍻
TheKnewGreg
More lore stuff would be awesome!
Kujiiro
Yeah, Patreon has been getting increasingly picky about the content they allow. From my view It feels like they only go after the big artists, so if you're a relatively small patreon you might not get bothered at all. Although I could easily be wrong. Some artists have even been told to host their content off-site, while others post porn just fine, so I don't know where the consistency is. Feral Vic should be just fine though, it's just a regular pic of a llama. Don't feel bad about offering more to higher tiers, that's what Patreon is for and I feel we all totally get the idea ^^ $1 tier is, as you say, your tip jar. Source files at the next tier makes sense, merch at another tier, polling options, possible requests. Showing extra appreciation to the higher donors as you said. For me I just wanna toss a buck to support your work, and I'm super appreciative that you post everything publicly. I'd say take a look around other artist's Patreons and get some ideas.
Blaise
source files and coupons and stuff sounds cool for the higher tiers, tbh though i'm kinda not subbed with any regard for rewards or anything along the lines like, i'm not gonna drop out just cus you go under the quota for furry buttholes or rambly saucy exposition posts for a month(both are good though!), i just want to show support for all the neat stuff you do 'w' (and i'd assuuuuume most people feel the same way) uhhh i guess the only real input i have is that whatever changes you make you should keep it simple for everyones sake the thing about the vip points sounds fun but keeping track of that might be a...headache
Jordan Cook-Irwin
lore posts sound great! I finish up a major project at work this week so I should have time to work on that candy fan game soon :3 I'm also super happy to go up a tier or two!
