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P1P1 from a draft I did

🕑 Added 2018-05-16 08:35:05 +0000 UTC

Comments

Gwiz

I think people who have bad experiences with helm might have been too greedy. A parade of 2/3s or 2/2 life links will stabilise and win a game. Helm IS the top end, don't just do nothing and expect to start copying Angels and Sphinxes one day.

Paul Myers

With my experience with the format, the amount of games in which Helm is not a great card is high enough that Icy's consistent greatness beats it out. Judging by these comments, helm seems a bit overrated, actually.

Aardvark

I've beaten helm by tempoing a player out before when they tried to equip and once recently by using In Bolas' Clutches on it, but if the opponent doesn't have just the right set-up against helm then they just lose. Against Icy they can slog through it eventually and if they eventually find artifact removal they're no worse off, while against helm they probably still lose to the advantage already gained by the helm.

Grant Hodgins

If you're behind, icy is much better. Helm far more powerful and wins games on the spot.. but I've lost with it on the BF unable to equip whereas icy has brought me back from near death more than a few times.

Matt White

I think William Barley’s comment has a lot of weight to it, actually. Well said.

Andrew Morris

MY first thought was icy manipulator because its so good and helms equip cost is very high, but helm does give you the copy with haste immediately that turn

William Barley

Helm for me, too. This format is so much about having single high powered cards that win you the game, and helm is one of those cards. Icy is amazing as a removal/tempo/control piece, but its capacity to actually WIN the game is more contingent upon the rest of your deck and the cards your opponent has committed to the field.

Brien Howard

To the Helm, Captain!

Ben

In the arena, Helm > Icy. Still makes a copy when tapped.

Ben Norris

I think this is one of those with no wrong answer. If I had this choice 10 times, I'd probably take each one 5 times. Voted for Icy this time, but if you asked me again tomorrow...

Matt White

Everything I am wants to take helm, but I voted for icy. Good 100% of the time, in all “quadrants” of quadrant theory. Helm is clearly more powerful, but requires a creature in play.

Fukata

I have a hard time seeing an argument for Icy over Helm in this format, Icy is great, but Helm is game warping in a way few cards in this format can be.