Limited Resources patreon

On the Patreon Changes

🕑 Added 2017-12-07 23:19:36 +0000 UTC

Comments

David Zee

Seems like the backlash has gotten Patreon to halt their rollout of the fees change: <a href="https://blog.patreon.com/not-rolling-out-fees-change/">https://blog.patreon.com/not-rolling-out-fees-change/</a>

Limited Resources

Yes, and I encourage anyone to game it in any way that makes it acceptable for them. I am *seriously* annoyed that you have to do so, as it should be a fun and easy experience to support the creators you love. You shouldn't have to game anything to do it. The good news is that our supporters are all gamers and will find a way that makes them happy.

Ira Humphrey

Thank you for the transparency by addressing this change with your Patrons. As some people have suggested, it’s pretty easy to game the system to ensure you get the same peldge amount as before. And since Pareon batches payments at the end of the month, the per-transaction fee seems spurious. I don’t know what prompted this change, but Magic players will always find the way to achieve maximum value.

Jeff Good

Not changing my $2.41 pledge.

Chris Farrell

How about changing to a monthly pledge format? Maybe take a poll, but I think most people would be fine with this for LR since you have proven for years you will put out consistent content. Some creators need "per episode" because they have irregular release schedules.

James Gardiner

I feel like I'm being forced into this position, but modifying my pledge amount to once a month feels a bit scammy as I'm qualified for most of the rewards now event though I'm only donating once a month.

Pier-Luc Tremblay

That's actually clever. I'll try it too.

John de Jong

Thanks so much for the post. I can only hope that Patreon realizes that this is going to hit their bottom line, and hard, because it makes microtransactions so burdensome. (Not a good thing for something that was supposed to increase their profits!) It feels a bit cheaty to boost my support per episode and then cap it, but I love the show so much that I can't even bear to think of stopping.

Jason

Yes, I don't understand why the need to charge the fees per post when the credit card only gets run once per month. Essentially, they are passing the CC fees directly onto the consumer. I get that the banks want their cut but it does run against the grain of businesses typically being responsible for these. It makes the "$1 an episode" a tougher sell. "$1.40" just doesn't have quite the same ring and 40% increase at $1 is somewhat galling.

Guillaume P.

So if I want to pay the fee only one time, i should change my structure to 8$ per episode, but max 8$ per month. This way, i only pay the fee once ? instead of 4 times if I keep it at 2$ per show ? [Edit] That's what I just did. Let see if it works out.

Danny Simard

Thanks guys. I appreciate you two being proactive about this.

Kari Malsom

I'll continue to support, but I hope the fee is only once per month, not per podcast. It's not really clear from their email

Limited Resources

Thank you very much!

Limited Resources

Thank you, much appreciated

Alex Middeleer

Thanks for the transparency! Seems like the Patreon's move was pretty ham-handed, but I certainly don't blame you guys.

Jean-Luc Brouillet

While I wish Patreon's fees were simpler to understand, it's not going to impact my support for LR. Keep on producing and I'll keep on listening :-)

Limited Resources

The way I read it is that they are putting the fee on per pledge, so yes your math is right. It should obviously only be charged once per month (the number of times you are actually charged!)

Limited Resources

Yeah, I'm really not pleased that people have to try to game the patreon just to get it how it should be in the first place. I appreciate you taking the effort which you shouldn't have to do.

LeemHerndon

I'll give it a month and keep an eye out to see if you guys come up with a suggested alternate model before making a change on my own. I definitely appreciate the quick response from your end directly so quickly situated with the official word from Patreon.

John Baranski

Can you change the structure so we can give a flat amount per month instead of per episode? If I understand the changes that would mean only one charge per month instead of 4...or am I misunderstanding the policy? Edit: ah, did it myself by setting it to one max donation per month and quadrupling amount.

Andy Shadow Patron of the Arts and Lover of all things depressing Bentley

I support 8 different creators on patreon and it all equals out to an extra $35 a month which is hard on me. I'm still going to support everyone I just might have to lower my pledge amounts to make up the difference so I don't break my budget

Michael Perkins

Does this mean that a pledge of $1.00 per episode is now actually $1.40 ish per episode? Or is it that they charge the fee once at the end of the month for all pledges combined for each creator?

John Roepke

Seems like the right approach, I'm doing the same for each per-post creator I support.

Limited Resources

We will 100% understand if it comes to that. We know your hard earned dollar is precious and you have to be smart about how you spend it.

MoreDinosaurs

You guys are awesome! Unfortunately I do not know if I am going to be continuing to use Patreon at this point, because I can only support a number of people at small amounts of $1-$3. I am sitting on the fence right now, but I hope you understand that if I do drop this month it is *solely* because of the pricing structure changes...

Limited Resources

I appreciate it. I *really* don't like the idea that you feel that you have to game their system, and I hope they adjust it accordingly so you don't have to anymore. But I appreciate that you are willing to jump through the hoops for us!