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[#173] THE LAND BELONGS TO WHOM IT BELONGS, Part One: Ontologies of Ottoman Palestine, 1776-1839
🕑 Added 2023-12-16 18:30:20 +0000 UTCDimitri and Khalid embark on a multi-episode journey into the actually existing history of the geographic region known for millennia as Palestine, and the actually existing people who inhabited it under (mostly) uninterrupted Ottoman rule from 1516 to 1918.
PART ONE: Ontologies of Ottoman Palestine, 1776-1839
Swirling eschatological issues around the Holy Land, centuries of European obsession with Jerusalem, “the marriage of geopolitics and religion”, erming the “it wasn’t even a countryyy” crowd, psychedelic intellectual Daniel Pinchbeck’s psychotic Substack post about forcefeeding Palestinians MDMA until they abandon their religion and projecting a 3D blue beam Temple over Al-Aqsa to fulfill ancient prophecies and achieve peace, a brief speedrun of Palestinian history from Ancient Egypt to the 16th century Ottoman conquest, Napoleon’s 1799 invasion of Egypt and Ottoman Syria, the surprising ethnic/religious demographics of the early 19th century, Palestine’s significance in the Great Game struggle between Britain and Czarist Russia, European attitudes towards the continued survival of the Ottoman Empire, soft power penetration of the Holy Land via European religious groups and NGOs, the Albanian Muhammad Ali’s conquest of Egypt, Palestine, and Syria in the 1830s, Bedouin conceptions of “land ownership”, Sir Moses Montefiore’s early attempts to purchase land, and more.
Track Listing:
Muslimgauze - Abu Nidal
Lydia Kalki - Liberation (sus Goa Psytrance)
Muslimgauze - Jerusalem Knife
Muslimgauze - Caste
Muslimgauze - Khan Younis
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Comments
Toby Savill
https://web.archive.org/web/20231222141629/https://danielpinchbeck.substack.com/p/forced-expulsions-and-promised-lands-0bd The substack doesn't appear to be paywalled, but just in case he comes to his senses and deletes it, here's an archived copy.
The Cheerful Comrade
I rejoined the Patreon in large part to listen to this series. So glad I did.
jonv
love the closing track. nice work on this episode, gonna need a few more listens
SHEEBCORE
is there an archive of that psycho Pinchbeck Substack article? I don't want to do the free trial to send my friend who doesn't listen to podcasts 😔
Lukas Lion
Speaking of that haute bourgeois reactionary shithead, Montefiore recently wrote an article for The Atlantic castigating the term "decolonization" by trying to emphasize that it's like totally different guys if you end up stay and don't directly oppress the native population like in Gaza...where they withdrew from yet still control the borders of and flow of goods and necessities into oh and still militarily oppress. He puts his Soviet historical fiction into use by doing the typical Stalin is even worse than Hitler shtick while downplaying the severity of Jewish paramilitary brutality during the Nakbah while quickly pivoting to "anti-wokism" attacks on identity politics of any sort. Here's an insane excerpt: "This ideology, powerful in the academy but long overdue for serious challenge, is a toxic, historically nonsensical mix of Marxist theory, Soviet propaganda, and traditional anti-Semitism from the Middle Ages and the 19th century." It's honestly jaw-dropping in how he hits every stupid and factually wrong trope while feigning complete ignorance of the actual meaning of phrases like "from the river to the sea" and still insisting on the 40 beheaded babies mythos. Just incredible; a must read if like myself you have a masochistic streak of sorts. Here's the archive link as I think the original is now paywalled: https://archive.ph/2023.10.28-061758/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/decolonization-narrative-dangerous-and-false/675799/#selection-1097.0-1097.583
Ben
Holy shit what good work. Such valuable perspective I am not hearing anywhere else. Which is literally why I listen to SJ in the first place. Thanks guys keep up the good work 🙏
Ashay Guevara
New SJ? The holidays came early
Subliminal Jihad
Muslimgauze (and one sus goa psytrance track). The whole series will be a Muslimgauze score inshallah
FamilyGorgeous
i love the music in this episode. what is it?
ampgorky
Hahaha WTF is going on at 20 minutes omg that shit is hilarious
ampgorky
Oh shit it’s the freakin weekend - love the opening music D
Major Pisano
Thanks guys !
Major Pisano
Boom!
Ben
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