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D&D Court: Bonus Cases - Dubious Drownings, Barbarian Prayers and The Great Pizza Order Debate

🕑 Added 2023-05-12 19:04:33 +0000 UTC

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Lilli of the bog

Thank you! The olive corrupts the otherwise delicious 'za.

Lilli of the bog

It sounds delicious tbh

eleccross

🎉🎉🎉New Haven pizza mention🎉🎉🎉

joshyrobot

it seems the court, the public, and to some extent even the plaintiff themselves have overlooked the one crucial detail of the great pizza order debate. it goes beyond all flavors; a salad pizza need not compete with olive, and group preferences can be ignored. the fact of the matter is that an olive pizza was never requested! when asked for orders, plaintiff and their girlfriend requested pepperoni. this was the pizza they wanted, because they both like it. the group was then informed that another pizza had to be ordered! apparently only 3 pies had been decided, and nobody was stepping up for the 4th. plaintiff bravely came forward and offered a light suggestion. it was met with ambivalence, but no other ideas surfaced. if the defendant later came upon information that could override or otherwise impact the suggestion of an olive pizza, it was their responsibility to clear that with the group before finalizing the order. if all 4 pizzas were taken, a 5th flavor never should have touched that table.

Blaize Gordon

Been relistening to old episodes and it's so funny because my go to order when I don't know what I want on pizza is salami and olives 🤤

Summer Tribe

why are these all missing a comma before the and

Dual Herron

Whoops. Made this comment to early (31:00ish) Murphy addresses this at 38:00

Dual Herron

In the case of the great pizza debate. I would like to say as an order of food in my friend group, we often have a budget and this sounds like a larger group (possibly around 8 people) where in everyone gets 1/2 a pizza. I would want to make sure everyone got what they wanted, maybe the other people texted in about wanting those pizzas, and the DM just got each person what they wanted.

Alyssa Landry

I've had salad pizza before. Its fine if you eat it fast enough that the lettuce can't wilt, but usually I'd rather just have the salad on the side.

Obs

As a vegetarian I wouldn't touch the salad pizza.

Nick Lerche

His name's Mavid tho :(

Plelk

Y'all!! It's the first Mavis joke! (18:18)

Betsinat Chambers

Pizza case depends on if the people eating olive pizza would only eat the olive pizza. 4 pieces for 2 people? Nah. Get the girlfriend a small personal pepperoni pizza, a full olive pie, and the rest

Monk3yTouch3r

The pizza case absolutely requires the recording from the order from the pizza place to be submitted

Alexander Gradecki

Ending on Goofy Movie references earns this ep a gold star - love it

Azeem

Looks like you called it! https://twitter.com/eaxford/status/1659413645821087744

Adam Blacharski

i cant believe the pizza debate to that long

James Flannery

Jake, I'm sorry, but they were talking to me.

Sara Alonso

You ALWAYS order an extra full boring plain pizza. People will always eat it.

CENTSTARR

To clarify I always wanna be a caring person and a boon to my party members, but gee I can be inept. I'd rather have someone tell me directly, rather than dance around it. I also understand that's not everyone's cup of tea cause some people won't receive it as well as I might.

CENTSTARR

I have to say with the barbarian I think you need to be direct and do a check in and say how you're feeling directly. Some people like me really benefit from a direct approach. I never wanna upset anyone, but I do wanna know if I am annoying peeps rather than end the campaign.

Ben Kullerd

Re: Communion pizza - I grew up Methodist and our oh-so-cool youth pastor once tried to teach us that it was the symbolism and ritual of communion that mattered, and not the materials, so she blessed a vending machine Dr. Pepper and Honey Bun. 10/10 would commune again.

Derrick Barrows

Agreed 💯

Summer Rose (Grantaire)

Also, the fact that there was no plain pizza is insane to me. No matter how well you know your friends or how many people are showing up or how specific they get with their orders, you HAVE to get at least one cheese. And that plain pizza WILL be the first to go. That's just the way pizza works.

Summer Rose (Grantaire)

As someone who is still recovering 10 years later from having spent two years with 5 tisch roommates, i had a visceral response to the suggestion of playing d&d with a group of tisch students 😂

DC47

For those who love pizza, but can't have any right now... https://instagram.com/pizza?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

William Bowen

Stop listening halfway through if you don't want to have to order pizza today

Leomund's Tiny Nut

Holy shit, I left and went to Olive garden, enjoyed a pizza and returned... they are still talking about the pizza.

MakingMercien

They talked about pizza to such an extent that I had to order one. But come on, there should have been a full Pepperoni Pizza. That's baseline for any pizza ordering.

Jack James

A goofy movie slaps.

Marty Shaw

As an olive hater one thing really jumped out to me about this pizza order debacle. The brine from the olives seeps throughout the whole pizza making the entire pizza taste like olives. The gf stated she wanted pepperoni pizza but doesn’t like olives, someone else from the group said they would have some olive. So the gf got absolutely screwed because not only does she only get half a pep pizza to share with another, but her pepperoni pizza now tastes like olives. Anyone who says “you can just pick them off” when it comes to olives is a liar.

Gearbox

So either Murph is correct and most of the players were vegetarian, OR if not that order is untenable. Swapping the half olive on the pep for half olive on the eggplant parm was a right answer for the latter

Nye-Low

Salad pizza is the pizza of a war criminal. Cannot be trusted.

Andrew Thomson (Flow)

Did anyone else immediately order pizza after hearing the pizza case?

nbsgamer

The place where it gets tricky is something you touched on during your discussion about the pizza salad. When ordering a pizza and asking people what they want, people ALWAYS insist they want lots of veggies. THIS IS A TRAP. By observing what pizzas are left over my experience is that 70% of the people will insist they want veggie pizzas, but what actually ends up happening when the pizzas arrive is that the meat pizzas are *always* gone first, than the cheese and then inevitably there is always 3/4 of the veggies pizzas left over. The proper thing to do is to ignore the non-vegetarians. As soon as they see/smell the meat pizzas they'll always change their mind. The proper ratio (ignoring the people with *real* dietary restrictions) is: 50% meat pizzas, 30% cheese pizzas, 10% veggie pizzas (min of 1) and 10% wild card. Assume each person eats half a pizza, if you have 10 people you order: 5 meat, 3 cheese, 1 veggie and 1 wild card like ham pineapple. You never would order a "salad pizza" if there are people insist you order a side salad and tell them they can dump it on the cheese pizza.

nbsgamer

I'm a self proclaimed pizza ordering expert. I'm a TTRPG gamer, video gamer, and have been doing Engineering Management for 20+ years. I've probably ordered pizzas 500+ pizzas for groups ranging from 2 people to 100+ people. I even used "pizza ordering" as an interview question for office managers and the like. Here is the important question: How much of each pizza was left over? That provides feedback on what happened.

Maya B

It just seems like they were more focused on the pep pizza but when they were trying to figure out a fourth suggested olive. They would've been fine with no olive pizza instead of a half if it meant sacrificing half a pepperoni. Poor communication on the pizza orderer's part imo.

Adam

I love how Jake is slowly razzing Murph back through the court cases themselves 😂

Renee Wild

Emily said she was choosing a character for a guest appearance, and I am DESPERATELY hoping that her, Murphy, and Brennan are guesting on Critical Role with the 2nd half of Bells Hells

Sweet potato

As an Australian, what the actual fuck is going on over there with your pizza? And why are we not doing it?

Dylan Meyer

I mean look ,Murph, I know you made Theo jump around on boats in the middle of a storm and then swirlwardened your way out of being sucked out to sea but platemail fucks you up in water. But actually I loved your final call on how to clean it up with RAW.

Neji

Murph pretending like he didn't know more of the lyrics to After Today

Colleen Brenner

The problem is this: the olive pizza was a throwaway suggestion for a 4th pizza, not as serious a request as the pepperoni. But both got treated as equally less important than the other requested pizzas and that’s why it wasn’t cool

Good Sir James

m that what you will. Sorry! I hit post too early.

Good Sir James

I had a salad pizza once, and it was preposterously bad. It was just a normal hot cheese pizza with red sauce that had cold Caeser salad on it. Like diced iceberg or maybe romaine lettuce, pre-tossed in the dressing. I like hot cheese pizza and cold Caeser salad separately, but this pizza was an abomination. The pizza was ordered on a first date, at the other person’s suggestion. They really enjoyed the pizza, and much later I found out that they were a legitimately bad person. So take fro

Del

Me listening to the pizza talk and being lactose intolerant 😭

Cass DeMarco

I had to order pizza after listening to this.

Argonautica

Like, a good dressed ceaser salad spread out over a cheese pizza sounds dope as fuck honestly.

Luke Collister

They only suggested the second one because there was still 1 pizza left to decide so it doesn't sound like there was any other strong contenders. It's pretty rough to put out a suggestion specifically for the final pizza and instead have it replace half of your first choice. Probably would have been better to just stick with the whole pep

Duncan cameron

I heard the tea

Ben Jackson

The only person who suffered in the pizza sitch is the girlfriend, who had to share half a pepperoni

Giancarlo Provo

Shirts vs skins is definitely still a thing 😂 at least at the university I work at

Bransy330

The pizza place in my local mall growing up made chicken Caesar salad pizza like this and it freaking ripped. Definitely one of my favorite foods!!

Grimbiliah

Why does a bug campaign and lovecraft have to be mutually exclusive? Bugs are very small and deal with many threats that are larger than their comprehension.

Bull

I need to say this. I love chicken Caesar salad pie. It’s hands down my go to. It’s not a red sauce pie, it’s cooked crust with great chicken Cesar salad on it. Heart broken listening to the hate lmao. If I can find a way to send them this pie, I will win them over ! 😂

Graham Starr

Jake, have you gone to Homeslice in Prospect Heights? Really great grandma slice

Michael McPhee

Yessss! The olive was only suggested on the basis that there was a 4th unfilled topping. First time I've felt so passionate about a dungeon court case.

m. white

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Thimo Trommer

I would have loved to see murph on video to the pizza debate! XD madness!

Its_Ven

they talked abt pizza so much i bought pizza 😭😂

TheDopeGuy

It’s not skins vs shirts. It’s judges vs Bailiffs at recess

Pasty Gray

Yeah. I think the party felt the same. And the dm was super gracious to accept the audaciousness of asking for 2 choices from a newbie.

Pasty Gray

I think the dm was gracious to honor both flavor orders from a newbie (which is a super bold move on the newbies part). I think it makes perfect sense that if someone gives 2 suggestions their suggestions get put on 1 pie. Particularly since we have no evidence that lots of other people seconded their topping choices.

hell

i grew up on richard scary and i am SO hype for this open

Britt Z

Literally just watched A Goofy Movie last night and just when I thought I finally got that song stuck out of my head...

Michael Lawton

Trust me I dreaded skins and prayed for shirts!!!!

Miss Ter Cole

Pizza orders are easy in Detroit. One cheese, one meat (or pepperoni), one supreme, and one BBQ chicken. Ranch on the side, obviously.

Maso

Thanks dad

Joe

That shirts vs skins talk sounded like the start of a college humor sketch

Jay3001

Grandma pizza is my favorite too as someone from the northeast and I’m regularly devastated that I can’t find it out here in the midwest

Brendon Miller

In my opinion it’s asinine to have 3 wildcard pizzas and split the 1 “normal” pizza. Also seems weird that they didn’t just order a full pep since the olive pizza was only brought up because they needed a 4th idea. I’m irrationally upset about that case for some reason. Maybe it has me hangry.

Mike C.

Plain olive pizza sounds disgusting compared to all the other ones

Zach Collier

I just had lunch at work and you got me hungry from all the pizza talk. Not mad just want a slice.

Lorelei The Succubus and Kyra her busty Queen

We recently started doing a Brisket Street taco pizzathat has a guac base, pico, beef brisket, a light sprikle or mozzerella to hold it together and a fresh topping of casa fresca after cooking.

Lorelei The Succubus and Kyra her busty Queen

Since I was a kid my favorite pizza has been Black olives and Ham. Now I'm more just into Olive pizza plain or cheese. I work In a pizzeria in a grocery store now kinda like Costco. I also love black olives as is tho. I'll eat them straight out the can and I'm proud the admit that, my fiance will pop a few when given the chance too. People think this is as weird as putting Fritos in taco salad. Good is good

Matthew Ising

As someone who used to work in an artisan pizza kitchen, we only did half and half with our pepperoni, cheese, and sausage pizzas. It's really important that the base layer be the same for even cooking. Salad pizza probably didn't have sauce and the eggplant parm who knows.