February Bonus Story #2
🕑 Added 2024-02-21 21:10:51 +0000 UTCThis months second bonus story touches on a topic that tends to get people heated.. abortion. Please be respectful with your comments, and let's make the conversation surrounding this one very civil. As Lauren says towards the end, this feels like a scary conversation to have.. when it really shouldn't be.
Comments
Mary Kate
She is not that cheating man’s incubator. Her choice!!!
Aline
I know I’m late, but the pregnancy one, she is not the asshole for getting an abortion. It’s not her responsibility to give him a child.
Kenzie Kennedy
I wish I had listened to this episode and Justin’s advice before having my own abortion weeks ago. I deeply regret it and grieve everyday. I wish I hadn’t rushed into it, I wish I would’ve sat on it for just a little bit longer, and I may have changed my mind. Just want to add a note, just because I regret my abortion doesn’t mean that you or someone else will. Pro-choice always 🫶🏻
cassidy peairson
my blood is BOILING listening to this. if he is not man enough to commit to his FIANCE, he is not man enough to be a parent. let alone a single parent. if he wanted to be a dad that bad, he should have prioritized his partner and he didn’t.
Holly Helget
Not being disrespectful is different than shrinking back and avoiding what is essentially a Healthcare access issue to not step on anyone's toes. Only one side of this debate is forcing their views on others/removing healthcare options for large swaths of the population. Be an advocate for what you believe, otherwise the loudest voices will eventually win out ... and as of late, it's pretty obvious which voices are screaming over the cacophony.
Asha Hasnain
You guys were super respectful navigating this difficult topic. It is so important to respect people who have views different than your own. While personally I would never get an abortion I can totally respect OP if that’s the decision that she makes, especially given the circumstances.
arcticanimal121
I'm open to discussion on this but I think since he cheated he proved his priorities weren't her- and she's the one that bears the child- I feel like he would have left if the sneak got pregnant- I hope she doesn't regret this- it's a terrible situation no matter WHAT decisions were/are made
arcticanimal121
Actually thank you for giving me this perspective
arcticanimal121
Dude this is such a hard decision GOW LONG WAS HE CHEATING?!?!??
Audrey de Szendeffy
I agree abortion can be complicated but I don’t think we should readily accept people who think it should be illegal
Hailey Hoffman
There shouldn't be any discussion as to whether someone with a uterus should have the right to their own body and choices
Chelsea Dempsey
You guys did a great job discussing this! Props to you 🫶🏽
Izzy Agnello
Naw I agree with you on this one. Good discussion guys
Nia Violet
She should keep the baby if SHE wants the baby, but not FOR him. That's the problem. If you are doing it for the wrong reason she might grow resentment towards that child and that's not fair. What he did doesn't change and the situation exposes so much about him as a person. If he is really someone she wants to be tied to forever then go ahead. If not, you can be a mom with someone else.
Nia Violet
I agree, but at the end of the day she can be a mom with someone else's baby.
Kaslin Baros
Women are not incubators, no matter how unfortunate another person’s circumstance might be. 🫶🏼🖤
Mya Carbajal
Fool me Once IS SO GOOD!!! i highly recommend to watch every netflix show made by the same director, HE IS AMAZING
NYRangersJess
A while back I was once very upset with one of Justin’s responses to a topic (I had messaged) but I’m here to say Justin’s response was so spot on and accurate , I think I yelled YES JUSTIN YES!! Wanted to comment rather then message to publicly say I think what I felt last time was a one off and this shows how thoughtful he truly is..
Bri Ryder
I don’t think there is any reason to be scared to post your takes on this one!! You were very considerate of both sides of this situation, I think it was a really good discussion. For me, I think it makes sense for her to terminate a pregnancy that would tie her to a relationship that ended up being toxic for her. I think maybe if there IS time for them to discuss the cheating together before she does that, and if she feels like this is something they can more forward from in a productive and positive way, and if she is okay being tied to him forever (and it really is forever if there is a child involved) then that’s something to consider. But if this behavior is part of a pattern, which nobody seems to have asked on Reddit, it could be entirely warranted. (It is warranted if the OP carrying the child wants to end the pregnancy, of course, but in terms of the actual behavior and this being the terms of cutting off the relationship, that’s what I mean.) This is a tough one!!! In the end, really this is up to her. No matter her reasons, no matter her circumstances. AND, I think if she was initially ecstatic to be pregnant, she should take the time to consider. Especially if she herself wants children someday.
Mamabear8654
I don't think I could ever give up parental rights either 🥺
Michelle
Wow, this is so tough!!! I fully get spiralling after hearing you can’t have kids. But cheating on your fiancée in your shared home & bed is beyond the pale. I agree she should process this and take the time if she has it to think this through, talk to a professional, etc. But also think his feelings and fertility issues should not be a factor. This is all on him and if he does end up losing his only chance at a biological child, that is the consequence of his dumbass, self pitying wallowing-ass actions. He fucked around and found out. Now he has to live with it.
Michelle
I think you might of misheard that, he was suggesting for her to have the baby, give up HER parental rights and HE raises it. He fully wants to be this babies parent, if she has it, he fully intends to be involved, even to be the sole parent. She however knows herself well enough to know that if she has the baby, she won’t be able to give up her parental rights.
Amiyah
I appreciate you guys so much, your content and the way you go about discussing stories and situations makes me so happy !! you guys are awesome ! make sure to take care of yourselves!!!
Beccah Lynn
She absolutely is NOT an asshole. It’s her choice. I hope she thinks it through and chooses the best option for HER. He has no right to try to pressure her into having the baby when he obviously didn’t care about her in the first place.
ash c
Seeing that she was excited when she found out about her pregnancy, I think she needs to figure out if she wants to be a mother regardless of her ex fiancé’s actions. I think that abortion is a huge decision & like you guys said she could end up regretting it in the future. If she has time, she should speak with a professional about her options before making any decisions especially since emotions are running high during early pregnancy.
Rocky 8
I think you guys handled this conversation really gracefully 🙌🏼 hot take but I think this guys is really hurting and it’s sad. knowing that you can’t give yourself and the person you love a family you both want makes sense why he would spiral like that. obviously cheating was not the answer and he made the biggest mistake of his life doing so. Hopefully he can get therapy and work through this but damn that’s a lot to work through. I fully support her decision as I couldn’t be tied to that person and their issues and bad energy for the rest of my life either. You would want to give your child the best home life and this doesn’t seem like it would’ve been how they initially dreamed.
Ylena Camou
it happened for a reason it was a sign , also ur comment about pro life pro choice , i personally wouldn’t abort but for someone else do what makes u happy i don’t care it’s not my life , ppl calling her a beast like how does this affect them
Mary Hallaren
exactlyyyy. and even though he said she cna have full custody and he'll sign away his rights... we all know thats a big fat lie. him and his big ego will fight tooth and nail on every decision involving that child
Christiana Garcia
Not her problem he’s got defective balls!
Mamabear8654
YES! I don't even care if it looks like revenge, that's just a happy accident. It would be because he has bad character. Period.
Mamabear8654
This is an interesting one.. But I can say with absolute certainty as a mom of 2 I wouldn't keep that baby. In my opinion there's no way I'd let a man who did that to me try to convince me to be an incubator for a baby I don't want to raise with him. I have a very deep hatred for cheaters anyway and I think it says a lot about someone's character. I would never trust him to be a good co parent
bri avina
This is a great story to support abortion rights. Yes her feelings were high, but had she not been pregnant we know she still would have left him. She does not want to be tied with him and she doesn’t have to be. She also has the right to terminate a pregnancy to support her choice and take care of herself.
Tiana L.P Sennie
Mentioned, not "me ruined". I'm typing quickly at work.
Tiana L.P Sennie
Even though I was getting rather heated there at the beginning, I think you guys did a great job handling this topic because it is extremely difficult to discuss with others. This topic was me ruined only once several months ago at my work and it is STILL causing major problems. I am pro-choice, I will always be pro-choice, but I agree, the fight should be for better healthcare and never be for control over what women do with their bodies.
Andrea Garcia
This!!!
Andrea Garcia
This is such a huge sign to have an abortion she literally would not have caught him other wise
Andrea Garcia
I hope she got an abortion, she just caught the man with an escort he is obviously not a respectful adult if he has the audacity to do that to his fiancé, it shows the type of person he is you don’t want this trauma for you or for this child.
Maria
last three minutes were so well said!! you guys use your platform so well, glad this was posted!!
Alyssa Koloske
Thank you!!! 😭🙌
Two Hot Takes
You're going to crush it!!! Just take your time and think it through
Syriah
Why did Justin say bye like that at the end lol “go-baiii” lmao cute
Mary Hallaren
but at the end of the day i agree with justin. if she has the privilege of time then she should sleep on it
Mary Hallaren
I would terminate just on the basis of not wanting that scumbag to be a father. god that poor girl
Tayler Hammond
Lol he can fuq off. So worried that OP referring to the embryo as “my baby” is going to cause more hurt psychologically if she goes through with the abortion.
Gem Hdz
Definitely not the first time he cheated… 😒
Katelynn Stanford
she is 100% NOT the asshole. he made his bed, now he’s gonna sleep alone in it
Jessica Lee
This was an intense story! It was really good though! I truly hope OP figures things out… Thanks guys for this story and your takes!
Alyssa Koloske
Morgan I sooo needed this rn, I’m taking my NBCOT exam tomorrow and listening to a good bonus story is a perfect lil break. Also definitely gonna listen to the new ep on my way to the test tomorrow 🙌
Colleen Schmidt
i really enjoyed this story and hearing your opinions. it is a tough story to weigh in on, especially with how polarizing this topic is, but i think it is important to discuss these hard hitting matters. probably best it was done on patreon for sure but i absolutely appreciate the fact you have talked about it!! well done to all three of you & good pick lauren!! looking forward to meeting you all at the live show in chicago 😊❤️
Ayy Bee
this story makes me so so sad, especially as she was coming home to see him and tell him the news
Kimberly Luna
Out of respect, she would have included him in the decision but he had zero respect for her. She gets to make that decision on her own. She is not his incubator. I do agree she should give herself some time to make the best decision for herself but at this point his opinion doesn’t matter. Great story!
Alison Lanning
You hit the nail on the head saying that whatever she chooses, whatever makes her happy, is the right choice. I think the ex husband lost the privilege to be a part of her life and have a say in her decisions when he cheated. I feel really bad for OP, I’m sure she got a lot of support in the comments but she probably also got a lot of backlash. I hope she finds peace at the end of this all, with whatever decision she makes 🤍
Lauren Corbett
I didn't mean to????