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How dangerous is the bird flu to humans?

🕑 Added 2023-05-27 12:00:03 +0000 UTC
How dangerous is the bird flu to humans?

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Ah, very observant... I had forgotten about this. But, yes, while we were editing the video, the EU passed some laws about vaccination regulations for birds, so it seemed somewhat out of date.

Happy Tuesday, not so bad, as it first looked: 250000 viewers, 14000 Likes, 3000 comments, half of it conspiracy nuts, the loudest, but tiny minority

Strewth.

Rad Antonov

"Neutralizing without sterilizing" is a term I heard during a discussion shortly after the mRNA vaccines were approved. It stuck with me because I felt it captured the essence of what a vaccine is supposed to do. This came from an expert in the field but I've never heard it used in messaging to the public. The media reports the extreme cases, as those are newsworthy, and rarely mentions the overwhelming statistical evidence in favor of vaccines. Fear is arguably a more powerful motivator. Anectodal evidence from a school nurse suggests that even the vaccine hesitant parents were quick to line up when death rates from covid were still high.

I've searched for this piece since two days too, thanks Tracey, made my morning. Stuff enough for Sabine, to write a new book.

This interview with Joe Scott took 2 whole days to pop up on my feed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2LTdgGdy3E. Sometimes I think YouTube doesn't know me at all.

D Brown

P.S: This was the week before the SuperBowl in Minneapolis MN. A time when people (and diseases) from all over the world visited Minneapolis.

D Brown

Tamiflu: In February 2018, I came down with something with symptoms much like those attributed to covid. Headache that would not go away. Over the weekend my health deteriorated. I was not feeling well but did not have a cough. At 10 AM on Monday I made a doctor's appointment. It was a struggle walking the 4 blocks to the doctor's office. At 2 PM in the doctor's office my temperature was 102.X. It took the nurses about 20 minutes to draw blood out of my veins. The doctor indicated if I did not improve I should go to the emergency room. I got home by 4 PM and my temp was 104.x. I felt like I was in a sauna, and even my arms were burning up. I took Tamiflu and (likely) Augmenten. I felt exhausted and had to lay down. Even though I was burning up, I got under the covers. I woke up 2 hours later and it felt like the fever had broken, but my temperature was still above 103. It would take a full week before my temp dropped below 101, which meant I could go back to work. I would say that was the closest I came to dying. I still have the (empty) Tamiflu box.

Hi G. I., I would go so far as to argue that vaccines in general are the number 1 technical achievement of humanity. When it comes to communication to the public, that's tough... I never got the impression that the covid vaccines were expected to be 100% effective and that they would completely prevent transmission etc. I thought that the vaccine messaging was on point, but clearly others were confused. So, when it comes to messaging, it is difficult to account for how the message is received based on education level, political affiliation, favorite sports team, etc. With the polio vaccine, Muhammad Ali got a shot live on TV (presumably) and that encouraged people to get vaccinations. But in this political climate, some politicians/public figures actively discourage vaccines. Trump was booed when he tried to encourage vaccines at a rally last year. How do we overcome this problem? It's tough...

https://www.youtube.com/live/7j8opni19Vk?feature=share A great Sabine as a modest interviewer and, hope I'm not respectless, the Supergirl of patience and kindness. Nice talk about quantum mechanics and time reverseability...

But the vaccines against CoV-SARS-2 have been very successful, the problems have been in: 1 the communication to the public about what to expect from them 2 the rapid evolution of the virus.

I sprinkle ashes in my head, this video is interesting new and nessecary with lots of information and easily to understand. Hopeful, that this good information work will find a lot of viewers, and some others might follow. Should be time enough for tech-labs and politicians to draw conclusions and act (aren't mink farms and the fur fad discontinued anyway?) And if vaccines would be financed for the poor in a global network, the rich could benefit too, preventing a new lockdown.

Which is why I haven't been to the YouTube comment section yet. 😕

That's right, Tracey. Among my colleagues were some vaccine sceptics during covid, especially about the new mRNA vaccines, just because new and 'mysterious'. Hopefully, helps to explain factually, how it works, it's not as difficult as physics. I'm personally exited about this technology, should be a way to new weapons against many deseases.

Whew, a lot of conspiracy nuts in the YouTube comments this week. Science is a messy business in that the path to what works/is true is long and winding with many dead-ends and lots of backtracking. With covid, seeing "how the sausage is made" in real time and being human guinea pigs while the biologists were in the process of figuring it out really caused a lot of havoc, leading to the conspiracy nuts posting on this video. When it comes to flu strains, it seems to me like the biologists have already figured it out -- the annual flu vaccines are built for the most prevalent flu strains at the time and the infrastructure is in place to modify the vaccine pretty quickly in the event of a new strain hopping over from birds/pigs/etc. My real concern, then, is the new wave of vaccine hesitancy resulting from the covid fiasco. Dying from my own ignorance is one thing, dying because of someone else's ignorance is a depressing thought.

Pat Mächler

You cut the sentence "The European Union, true to form, can’t really decide what to do" in the video. Intentionally?

So things don't look that bad for most humans - YET.


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