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In Too Deep, Book 2, Part 4

🕑 Added 2024-07-05 13:00:14 +0000 UTC

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Brad

So so true. I hate cucks really but like hotwife husbands. David has become a cuck and it is ruining the story and the possibilities. You are so right. There is a big difference between being turned on and wanting something. Something most authors and people who read this either forget or don’t know. Getting turned on is a human reaction not controlled by the individual. Wanting something can be controlled. I find it so much more appealing when the husband gets turned on but doesn’t want it… but is willing to give his wife what she needs because he loves her so much. But her understanding and loving him more because of it and not rubbing it in his face and humiliating him. Amanda is no where near this now. She is rubbing it in his face and enjoying doing so. She likes humiliating him. She has gone beyond the sex and is into the relationship. She is just taking from David and giving nothing back. She is just a piece of trash. She is no longer the upstanding Amanda in my mind doing a job but she is truly the Trashy Raven. Not sure how much more of this I can take. I like dark but need connections and HEA. There is no way that this can be HEA. She is no longer the person he married which is sad. That is when the marriage ends. Yes people change but something this drastic is not recoverable. And Julia is a sadistic witch. I just wonder if this is payback for Amanda getting the assignment over her.

Brad

We can only hope. Earlier I said I liked Amanda. Now she is just rubbing it in David’s face.

SmilingCoyote

On becoming a super slut...there is the very sad story of Annabel Chong. She was a Singaporean straight student. Apparently she got raped, and she delt with it by going into porn and setting the world record for largest gangbang. So I think the psychology part does check out. But it's dark and sad though. I sort of understand it... when I had to do jungle training and snap off the head of a live chicken, I sort of just steeled myself and leaned into it. I know it's a poor comparison to the horror about Annabel, but it makes it believable to me how Amanda "leaned" into her role.

Andrew Mellein

Smiling Coyote your right this book reminds of "Whatever It Takes". I felt that book was a little unrealistic how the prim proper housewife become a super slut. Due to being raped numerous times by the mobsters. I think she said she enjoyed and got off on it. Yeah right, I think it was rape no matter what the characters say, That was a pretty dark book. Even though their was hot scenes. Also forgot that the characters had kids which makes it even darker. Luckily no kids for Amanda and David. Moving along yeah I think this book is a successor to that book and KW said it's going to get darker. Maybe Amanda gets raped? By the way whatever happened to Ben Boswell? His and Kenny Wright's stuff is great!

SmilingCoyote

Amanda's behaviour is rather "shocking" to a regular guy. However, I was really musing if it was "realistic". Ben Boswell's whatever it takes spanned less than 2months, and the wife had similar behaviour. The sandbox was just defined in a way that slid down this slippery slope. The Rubicon was really the point at which Amanda took on the case. If every girl was turning tricks, could Amanda have achieved her goals not doing what she did. The two months to me was not unrealistic when Amanda and David both had kinks that fed on the situation. Had David been a total non-hotwife, he would have likely demanded that Amanda stop. He would honestly have had such a difficult time processing her actions, and it would have been a total betrayal when he saw how much Amanda enjoyed her cover. But his kink did a number on his reaction. For me, at the end of the day, David sort of deserved what he got. There was an opportunity for him to pull the plug but he did not. Amanda's the poster girl for not bringing someone with a gambling addiction to a casino. It's basically a perfect storm. I wanted something edgy and really crazy. So having the right people in the wrong situation was what I was looking for. And it's certainly happening. But the suggestion that David finding out more before the confrontation would probably gravitate to a more "betrayed" reaction. Which in itself would have been really interesting if Amanda used the duty before self reasoning. It's not indefensible, and it would definitely result in a more rebellious, angry, defiant David in tow. Most stories are often set up to be more "regulated". This reminds me of HongKong triad movies from the eighties, were the worst things happen to the protagonists....and the endings are at best bitter sweet. A Hollywood movie of the same "ilk" would be "War of the Roses". Things are just unpleasant. But I'm glad that Kenny's daring to venture into something like this. Can't wait to see how everything pans out.

Chris K

Yeah, I think what would bring me back to this story is to find out Amanda has a long history of this behavior. Because in 2 months of multiple men, stripping, drugs, tango dancing, anal sex, and whatever else is discovered along the way for her to do all to well right off the bat from starting this case is a little too far fetched. As for David accepting it all to "easy" doesn't really make it any more enjoyable. I'm trying to like this story, but it's just flat.

Andrew Mellein

Make Amanda go to therapy. David didn't do anything wrong except capitulate to Amanda deviant desires.

Andrew Mellein

I agree. It felt like David turned to quickly to cuckold accepting status. Afterall in the first chapters it seemed like he would be angry or mad if Amanda cheated on him. Only when he talked to Ty did we only get a hint that he enjoyed but it was briefly. And then he capitulated quickly when Amanda confessed which took me out of the story. Maybe it's a storytelling tactic I don't know. But I will continue with the rest of the story.

Andrew Mellein

I think Kenny started this series off as a dark cuckold series but it feels like he is positioning it into a hot wife series with David watching. The problem is that Amanda did all her initial acts without David that I dont buy the hotwife label. She cheated and gave a halfhearted apology to her hubby. I actually think a HEA would be a cop out given how dark this series is. But that's KW call.

Andrew Mellein

I felt David was a little smart in chapter 1. And then took a complete nosedive in his I.Q. when Amanda callously admitted to cheating on him. And he hasn't recovered so far.

Andrew Mellein

She definitely needs to be detoxed and tested for STD'S when the mission is done. You know Nicky was fucking other strippers in the club. All the unprotected sex with multiple partners.

Chris K

Not to mention the possible need for rehab after.

Marco Valori

Congratulations Kenny! I am really loving the story! If I can give you my opinion though, I think it might be more interesting if the process of Amanda becoming a total slut and David accepting and discovering it would have been more gradual. It would have been nice if David found out more and more things by himself before having the confrontation with Amanda

Kevin Goodman

Me too

Rich

Yeah I'm with Sid too. The set up is perfect, the big rooms in those places will be lined with people watching, it's what they're for. David isn't going to be conspicuous.

Rich

Actually pleased you put the other one up. The contrast is interesting. This version changes the feel of more than what's in that particular scene. Maybe you should release a blooper reel after the end of the series.

D375

Committing lower level crimes like prostitution, doing illegal drugs, or breaking and entering is fairly common for undercover work. It sells the cover story and makes the criminals believe that the undercover operative is one of them. I don't have a problem with that from a legality standpoint. Essentially, undercover operatives go in knowing they have a pre-built deal with the DA's office. I have a much bigger problem with the potential effects on Amanda's personal life/marriage. There's a reason that law enforcement/military careers have a substantially higher divorce rate than the rest of society. The fact that Amanda didn't discuss this in detail with David in advance makes this so heartwrenching.

Tracey52

I agree with Sid, although I’m not sure how much David can watch without giving the game away.

Sid

I think option 1 is most likely. I think Julia will pleasure David while he watches his slutty wife get filled up! 😵‍💫

D375

I'm really curious about how this will turn into a HEA.

D375

@tracey52 What do you think will happen?

D375

I think David will watch Amanda get DP'd while Julia plays with David. I think there are three options. Option 1. David and Julia watch Amanda and Julia gives David a blowjob/has sex with David and turns the tables on Amanda. Option 2. David starts watching Amanda is made to play with Julia and only hears/see snippets of Amanda's DP scene while Amanda watches while being DP'd. Option 3. David and Julia watch Amanda's scene and Julia cleans up Amanda/has a F/F scene with her after the DP.

Tracey52

And Julia joins in or gets David off?

Tracey52

To blend in, I think Julia will need to get involved. David can be a watcher but Julia can’t and still keep her cover. I see some pussy eating in their futures. I wonder what Julia got up to in her previous visits without the hubby?

Kevin Goodman

Definitely and David watches

Sid

This is so damn hot 🔥 predictions on whether Amanda gets DP’d next? I hope so..

Chris K

I think this scene was more of the same. Amanda's "sorry, not sorry" attitude, and David being the world's biggest simp.

Chris K

Kevin. If Amanda reacts to that at all, she needs to be put in her place. After all, he is "undercover"

Kevin Goodman

At some point he has to realize she's not the person he thought she was when he married her. She's breaking multiple laws in her pursuit of "justice". Is she any better than the people she is working against?

quizkid

Well, I learned something new today! (or did I miss this in an earlier chapter?)

Andrew Mellein

At the end of the day all this is on David. He married her knowing her career. And then when she admitted her affair he was turned on and screwed her. He gets what he deserves.

Nail

Just wanted to add. This one is a tough/dark one (you did say so haha). I think back to Annie's affair here, essentially a cheating wife, but the HEA was made possible in a way because we understood so much of her character through her diary (great idea!). Here we are experiencing everything through David, not just that, but Julia is clearly not helping the emotional turmoil either and Amanda is completely into the role to the point that the lines are starting to blur.

Nail

The way I interpreted it is that it was just one more thing that shows how deep Amanda is in her role as Raven. One more thing that David doesn't recognize, One more thing he didn't believe she would ever do out of a strong morale principle and yet...

Tracey52

I like the modified reclamation scene better, it shows a softer more understanding side of Amanda and what she is putting David through. I still think the unprotected sex should be raised, potentially by Amanda to reassure David somehow that she is not putting him at risk. If she can.

Kevin Goodman

Yeah, poor David. I think his self esteem would be less than zero after he watches her get off on DP. Maybe Julia will cheer him up. I wonder how Amanda will react to that?

Tracey52

That model of purity shattered. Is David losing respect for his wife and is seeing her as some gonzo porn star? Is this a coping mechanism or a fundamental change in how he views her?

Tracey52

“She knows we’re listening,” Julia said. “And she’s comfortable with us listening. This is good.” Julia tells David this but when David and Amanda reunite, Amanda expresses surprise that David was listening. Is this Julia playing games with them both?

Tracey52

Worse than the kiss was what came next—the way they held each other, quietly talking, their heads together, eyes locked. I couldn’t hear what they were saying, but it didn’t matter. They were into each other. This went beyond pure physical attraction. A man didn’t look at a woman like that on pure looks alone, and I couldn’t remember the last time Amanda had looked at me with such intensity. This paragraph says a lot about where David and Amanda’s relationship is and perhaps how deep into Raven Amanda is.

Andrew Mellein

Noice! Poor David (HAHAHAHA!)

Kevin Goodman

There may not be a train coming, but it sounds like DP with 2 BBCs. Can't wait for Tuesday

Donkatsu

Kenny, love your formerly introverted and strait-laced gals who assume new, more outgoing, sluttier personae, with a significant increase in their sexual repertoires. Heather/Angelica (Girlfriend, Bulls Eye), Chelsea (Castaway), and now, Amanda/Raven have been able to transform themselves almost entirely while retaining the kernel of wholesomeness that keeps the hubby in line. Let me put down my marker on that - I LOVE Amanda/Raven. I love how she can shimmy right into her role seamlessly, how it released a certain je ne sais quoi that must always have been there - as is was for Chelsea and Angelica and many others of your gals. I love them all. Julia is having altogether too much fun with David, and in addition to her delight with teasing and puncturing David's self esteem, seems to adapt quite naturally to the perverse perks that come with her handler role. I guess, it you go from a GS schedule salary to fancy German cars, top shelf booze, coke, lots of sex, and an upgraded slutty wardrobe, then going back to the grey suits and brown shoes in cubicle land will pretty much suck. As an aside without much TMI, I know a bit about some corners of the dark world. It is not easy on a marriage or even normal friendships or family relations. Lots of people cannot live without the rush when the operation is over, and, probably like Julia, they get at least a little addicted to the lifestyle, including the booze and drugs, and clubbing lifestyle. Just look at how defensive Amanda got at the mention of the Bolivian Marching Powder-fueled sex with old Nick. From my perspective, Kenny, you are doing a great job with this aspect of the story as well. I always thought you had at least a little familiarity with that world, given how you based more than one story around Chesterbrook Rd., just down the street from the {ahem} Fairfax (VA) Country Bureau of Public Roads Testing Station (https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp78-04718a002700050010-8).

Andrew Mellein

Yeah Kenny! I can totally see are you going for something different. You weren't kidding! You should have a warning reader discretion advised in the intro pages when it goes to print form (LOL!) This is a dark cuckold book. And truth of the matter is I like cuckold books more than hotwife books. I like the taboo nature of one partner doing it without the other's consent and behind their back. Have you read the Reluctant Cuckold by David Mcmanus? It's pretty good! I am still waiting for the author to finish book 3. I am still on the ride you are taking us Kenny!

Kenny Wright

I understand that you don't like Amanda, and I'm at peace with that. Just keep in mind that the intention and focus of this book is different from what I was going for in Annie's Affair. In that one, the affair was central. In this, there's a lot more going on.

Kenny Wright

I may see if I can work her into the final book!

Andrew Mellein

I really dont care about the Amanda character anymore. She's really just a cypher at this point. I think a pack of dudes could pull a train on Amanda in the story at this point and I wouldn't care. I dont see any love or compassion in David and Amanda's marriage. This is not a hotwife story but a dark cuckold story in my estimation. Manus Dare for sure. But compare this to KW's Annie's Affair and even though it dealt with cuckoldry and cheating. I still felt their was love in Amanda and Travis's relationship. That's why I love that book!

Andrew Mellein

Kenny is Irina a one off? I fell in love with her character in that one chapter. (LOL!)

Andrew Mellein

I am waiting for David to snap at Amanda like the Incredible hulk.

Andrew Mellein

Tracey52 Indeed! This is definitely KW's riff on a Manus Dare book. I frankly don't see any love or compassion in Amanda and David's relationship. So no condoms! If I was David I would totally demand Amanda get a std test. But at this point he clouds his broken cuckoldry with his excitement at Amanda's newfound sexuality. If I was him I would go home change all the house locks and throw her shit out the door. But I am here for the ride!

Chris K

Agreed 👍

quizkid

I thought Mandy was short for Amanda. I had an initial shock when I read that, but let it go.

Kenny Wright

I've updated the text now.

Kenny Wright

So it seems like I’ve posted an older version of these chapters. I swear that I’d caught all areas where I mentioned “Mandy.” Also, the scene when she comes home is slightly different. I’ll post the correct version shortly. Apologies for that.

EPS

David broke so quickly he’s such a weak cuck now, this is so different, usually the couple journeys together and even when it’s not gradual there is this connection. This has none of that she’s just a complete nymph not involving him at all and he’s such an excuse my language but a bitch. I wouldn’t be shocked if he starts getting banged by dude’s at some point…

Rich

I’m sort of wobbling with Amanda myself. She seems to have just taken it for granted that the “David situation” is resolved and that’s it. She’s’ certainly acting like it, not a hint of a struggle when she comes back for that flying visit. David seemed curiously relaxed about it too, considering how far things went before it. We also now know that the prospect of her cheating on David must have been there from the word go, right back before the story started and David argued with her about doing the UC job. Even if she didn’t know about all of the crazy sex that she’d get a taste for, she must have known that she’d have to sleep with the target, it’s the only way the operation would have worked. I hope she redeems herself, I really do, but it’s going to take more than just saying she’s sorry and David accepts it because he gets to sleep with a hot stripper now, who incidentally has performed all of her best party tricks for someone else first. There’s some massive trust issues to get past, and she’s clearly an effective liar. Even if she said she’d put it all back in that box at the end of it, how would he ever know if that was true? FBI don’t work office hours, she’d have every opportunity to cheat recreationally. Don’t get me wrong, still enjoying the ride, but the questions keep coming.

Kenny Wright

This one actually isn't a typo. It's his pet name for her. Russian for "sun".

Kenny Wright

Fixed. Mandy is an artifact of one of the many earlier incarnations of this story when Nikolai called her "Mandy." But it was needlessly confusing, so I cut it. Guess some of the names snuck in.

Smoke

This is getting really deep, as the title notes. Julia is still a sleazy character with her own agenda. It's going to take some time and probably therapy to recover their marriage from this. Hope it is all worth while to Amanda. Although David seems to be turned on by some of this, I doubt he can be okay with it all long term.

Smoke

Who is Mandy? 'Forced her to his knees...'? Shouldn't it be 'Forced her to her knees...

Chris K

Does the FBI offer additional payment packages when going from field agent to coke whore? 🤔

@hebridesdrifter

Excellent chapters full of action and exposition. Amanda’s desperately trying to keep David tethered, but I think his doubts are really taking hold. Meanwhile, the cover assignment with Julia is melting the ice between them. I think her digs at David are actually a form of foreplay, and can’t wait to see what happens with these two as they witness the looming debauchery in “the bedroom.” Tuesday is so far off, dammit!

Nail

Damn... Julia is stringing David along and making him experience it all. I think David will go nuclear at some point.

Kevin Goodman

He said it was dark, he wasn't kidding!

Tracey52

Man oh man. Down the rabbit hole David goes. So no condoms then at least with Nikolai. I’m a bit surprised David didn’t register that especially Friday.. I’ve been very supportive of Amanda and am still trying to be, but this just seems cruel. Can’t really excuse how Amanda could volunteer for this and Julia is either a sadist or is trying to ruin Amanda and David’s relationship. While David is turned on, he doesn’t want this and Amanda’s ability to get so into character with David there shows career before marriage. David was warned, but she shouldn’t have married him. David should be pulling the pin. It’s humiliating. It’s going to take a lot for either of them to gain my respect. So at this point I’m not caring whether they make it or not. Maybe David is better without her as he really didn’t know her as it turns out. Loving the read though. Manus Dare eat you heart out. I didn’t know Kenny had this in him. Where’s it been hiding kw?

quizkid

Proofread item: You do that so well, solntse."

Kevin Goodman

Damn that was hot. Is it Tuesday yet?


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