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In Too Deep, Book 2, Part 3

🕑 Added 2024-07-02 13:00:09 +0000 UTC

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Kenny Wright

@Brad It's so fascinating to read these thoughts at this point. Keep reading and enjoy! And yes, some things will be smoothed during final publication.

Brad

Amanda is a cheating skank but is doing it with a purpose… not because she likes it. We are finding that she is liking it but that is different in my mind. She kept David in the dark for 2 reasons. One is good the other not so good. One is she wanted to shield David from what she was going to have to do and never tell him that she was a slut/whore. That is the Amanda who is the ultimate LEO professional UC. Now she is not telling David because she likes it and doesn’t want him to think less of her. While she has shared some, if she doesn’t come completely clean in the end there is no hope for them if David is the man I hope he is. I can forgive a lot with complete disclosure and proper apologies, regret, and contrition. Remember, Amanda didn’t do any of this because she wanted to be a slut/whore… she started it for noble reasons. She just found out she likes it.

Brad

Hmmmm. I think I agree with you. I think Amanda is very committed to David in her way. It’s just not necessarily the way David would want. I think she very much loves him in her way and KNOWS that he is good to her and for her. She KNOWS she couldn’t find anyone better. I am hoping that David gets to the “ENOUGH OF THIS BULLSHIT” stage soon and gets it all sorted out. Julia is not helping matters any when she pushes David’s buttons. She needs to be reassuring him that Amanda is just playing a part, as well as Amanda does, and will come back to him. The way she is playing it is driving a wedge between them which will cause a rift and Amanda to freak out. There are 4 things that would make me walk away with no regret unless it was immediately fixed. The tattoo becomes real. She gets her nips and/or clit pierced. She really is taking drugs and gets hooked on them. She gets her tits enhanced to be bigger. That is one, however, that can’t be fixed. The scars alone will ruin her breasts. At this point I really like Amanda although she is right on the edge which I really need to love a story. There have been some excellent comments about how her character isn’t completely consistent that I hope KW fixes in the final publication.

D375

Well said, @hebridesdrifter! It's been fascinating reading everyone's opinions. The fact that the comment section has been so lively shows that Kenny is onto something here. I'm on tenterhooks to see how the story pans out.

Andrew Mellein

I think I'm invested in this story to see the steamy hot sex scene between David and Julia. Amanda is more a hotwife cypher as Raven with her numerous affairs. While Julia has bitchy personality and strange sex appeal. That I definitely want to see more of her in this story and future books.

@hebridesdrifter

As we all have some time to ruminate before the next release, I’ll throw in my two cents on where we find ourselves. Even though all of us joined this site because we’re avid KW fans, I still think it worth acknowledging how this series underscores his considerable skills. This is an unusual and riveting story with a bunch of characters who are at once shadowy and appealing. Amanda IS polarizing, but in the few scenes we’ve seen her with David she comes off devoted and loving. And, yes, she’s also been an active and enthusiastic participant in behavior that veers far outside acceptable married boundaries, however professionally “necessary “ it may be. Julia frequently comes across loathsome, but she strikes me as weirdly appealing and I have a theory that there’s something both sexy and disturbing brewing between her and David. Fascinating to see how that plays out. David has been a sort of reluctant and bewildered passenger on a long, strange trip, but I think he’s reached a breaking point and is on the verge of “ENOUGH OF THIS BULLSHIT!” Havoc may follow. All in all it’s a great read and I anxiously await the next installment.

Kevin Goodman

I think it's fair to comment as ww go along. Our outlook is limited by what we know so far. I'm hoping we like Amanda more as we get to know her better. If not, I'm still really enjoying the journey so far

Chris K

I agree with Kevin. I also want to see how they work through her cheating (cause that's exactly what it is), and while she may be electric, she is anything but a good wife based on what we've seen so far. I'll try my best to resist any participation in the comments going forward

Kevin Goodman

Yeah, I agree. I love this story. I'd like David to voice some if his doubts to Amanda, but I understand why he hasn't. I'm looking forward to seeing how David and Amanda work through her cheating.

Kenny Wright

I don't expect to ever write stories that are universally enjoyed by all, or experienced by everyone. I'm at peace with the fact that not everyone's going to love Amanda (I personally think she's pretty electric). My job is to try to help you all see what David sees in her, and I'm realizing that you all may just not agree with those reasons. That's fine. I'm pretty pleased with how the book will end, though, and the shape of the final act.

Chris K

Everyone has a different perspective on what they deem acceptable in order to enjoy the story. I don't think anyone has bailed on Kenny because of this, we just want to feel the story a different way. If we want to hate on Amanda or love her, that's up to us individually. Don't tell us what the point of the story is or how to enjoy it. We all spew out ideas and KW may take them or not, but a fact is that we are all still reading. His stories get us engaged, and boy are we.

SmilingCoyote

Guys, there might be another way to view this. The number 12 is probably for impact. To make a point of how deep she went and how far. If it were 3 or 4 everyone would have been ok with it. The story is obviously a gritty one so I like it. This story is about “how deep” the line was crossed. I think one reader had a different approach….to see how far Amanda is going. We are definately on a roller coaster. So I think you might be disappointed if you wanted the ride to be gentle😊

Kevin Goodman

That's just the boss, what about the other 11 guys?

Andrew Mellein

Forgot about that.

Tracey52

There was nothing about them not practicing safe sex at least when PIV or PIA. Wasn’t there a box of condoms in the draw?

Nail

Yeah good point. "Stripper for a wife". Ty would indeed be the better husband in this role.

Andrew Mellein

I actually think David would be better with Julia. And Amanda would have been better with Ty. Remember how Ty was actually telling David it was O.K. Amanda/Raven was banging other guys. Ty is attracted to and likes that.

Donkatsu

Like flying Frankie Pantangela's brother over from italy for the Congressional hearings (Godfather II)? There is something more complex going on between Amanda and Julia than either has let on this far. Great series Kenny! But, really, the feds could use our doll, Angelica (Girlfriend and Bulls Eye).

Andrew Mellein

Yes. Also wouldn't she have a form of Stockholm syndrome for being In too Deep with her boss and all these shady individuals. Also shouldn't she get checked for sexually transmitted diseases. 12 guys! That's why I was also miffed last chapter. If I was David I would immediately ask if she is clean before fucking her. She could have a disease and passed on to stupid David!

Kevin Goodman

Now that it's been confirmed that the boss is a drug lord , I wonder how heavy Raven's drug use is. She must be using, right?

@hebridesdrifter

👍

Rich

Boom. Good thought @Chris K.I don’t see a mob boss being stupid enough to give information to a hot stripper, even if he has a thing for her. She has to establish a real emotional connection with him. It’s very difficult to fake that so it might be real, on the other hand if Amanda is good enough to fake that, then where does that leave David when she tells him how important he is to her? Then would be an absolute killer if that whole reunion conversation was, at least in part, a performance.

Brian Thornton

Wouldn’t that be perfect for his “hero’s journey“? Not being afraid, being decisive, no more being pushed around? For my money those tables are looking to be turned. And KW has done a great job making him sympathetic rather than being simply pathetic.

Nail

Totally agree Andrew. I am also struggling to connect with Amanda, whereas Julia is funny and a sadist. I also think so far Julia would make the better hotwife than Amanda, there is a disconnect between Amanda and David which has always been there based on flashbacks. I am honestly feeling more and more than this one does not have a HEA.

@hebridesdrifter

We’re just free forming here, but I like it. Blending the dark side of the distant past with the here and now, while picturing a sad-sack David. Still, I think he may turn the tables yet. Just don’t know with whom. 😏

Brian Thornton

Great thought. I love the imagery of Bogey’s fatalistic lisp as a voiceover, @Ihebridesdrifter. I had a similarly powerful reaction,. Except for me it evoked a vision of the Russian crime boss antagonist in the first JOHN WICK movie, and what he eventually brought on himself.

@hebridesdrifter

“He looked like the kind of guy with confidence bred from money. This was the man currently fucking my wife. He was tall and distinguished, late forties or early fifties maybe.” The dry, detached sort of narrative you’d hear in a ‘40s film noir movie. David, now so languid and resigned to his fate (picture a low-key lit Humphrey Bogart here) he simply downs a couple of quick shots, turns and walks away into the darkness. Fade to black.

Chris K

Sure, Amaven is a hot character. She just has no chemistry with her husband and as a reader I haven't found a reason yet to like her. (Except the dancing and sex scenes.)

Chris K

I agree Andrew. Julia is the lead here. When I think about her actions alone, and her justification of them, I feel like she is the worst wife I have ever read in erotica. And there have been some awful ones. (Looking at you Peter G. Johnson! Lol)

Andrew Mellein

I think she has taken the story away from Amanda. Where I like her character more. Plus she has all the great lines. To me Amanda is cold and unlikable. Plus at this point I don't care what happens to Amanda. She could have a train run on her and I wouldn't care as a reader.

Chris K

I don't think she's a double agent, but maybe "in too deep" with the boss and shielding him from the windfall of the case. Julia getting David involved could be her way of telling Amaven "look what you have to lose". (While also trying to get a piece of course!)

Andrew Mellein

Yes and with Mia. Make it a threesome.

D375

I'm with you Tracey. If those are the bosses clothes at Amanda/Raven's apartment then the FBI took another big chance by bringing David there. There's a possibility that the boss might have Amanda's place under surveillance or him just noticing differences around the apartment like clean sheets, or David shifting his clothes/belongings. In retrospect, should they have met at a FBI office or a safe house?

@hebridesdrifter

Yep. Aussie writer, same genre. And it IS amusing . . . Mia Moore/Mi Amor.

Tracey52

Must say, I’m confused as to what the operation gets out of Davey being there? Is it that it gives Julia a cover or possibly to get both David and Amanda settled because they see each other? Also the confirmation that the boss is fucking her regularly along with the wardrobe of clothes is gotta be tough on David. Doesn’t know where his head is at at the moment.

Andrew Mellein

Great chapter Kenny. The last chapter was like your "Red Wedding" (LOL)! This chapter made me love Julia. I would love a David- Julia hookup. I can read the sexual tension between them. My out of left field prediction that is probably not true-Amanda is a double agent and working for the mob. Why would she lobby for the job over Julia and get it and then immediately catch the boss's eye. Also she admitted to enjoying sex with those greasy criminals. It's probably not true but would be a curve ball and pretty dark.

Rubicon

Well David is definitely been thrown into deep end, enjoying the change from looking outside in, to be more involved in case. Kinda unrealistic for a agents husband to get thrown in like this but I’ll suspend disbelief since it’s an erotic thriller and all

Kenny Wright

This is an author, I take it? I just thought it was a funny agent name to have in erotica. There is no relation!

@hebridesdrifter

Agent MIA MOORE?? LOL.LOL.LOL. Well, she does write about threesomes a lot, so might be apropos. Very clever, Kenny.

D375

I'd love to get a flashback to the conversation between David and Julia in Amanda's apartment. Based on Julia's comments to Mia it doesn't sound like David stood up for himself. Either that or Julia continues to be a jerk. It would also be fun to have David successfully dominate Julia at some point.

D375

Bringing David to the club with a half-assed cover story seems shortsighted. This could blow the entire operation, no? If the club is wired for video ie. Julia saying, “You know we have access to that room’s recordings, too. We can even watch tonight’s performance.” wouldn't it be safer for him to see what's going on from a video?

Rich

You know that bit about not trusting Julia is nagging at me. As far as I can see Julia has been completely upfront with David all along. We're only about half way through so there's bound to be a whole lot more revelations. I'm wondering at this point if Amanda doesn't want him to trust Julia because there are things she has no intention of telling him that Julia knows. There was also that throw away line from the end of the last part "Amanda's very convincing isn't she?", makes me wonder what she was really talking about. Particularly if that apartment is wired and Julia listened to the whole thing. I mean David says Amanda doesn’t make snap decisions, and she goes straight from “I can’t take it anymore I’m pulling out” something she says she's been thinking for two weeks, back to heading out to the club, in two hours flat, without even mentioning that again, when David is clearly messed up, even if he is sort of going along with it. Interesting that.

Chris K

I hope he finds out that Amanda married that guy undercover! It also seems Julia seems to be the only one still focused on the operation...

Nail

Okay, I'll be honest here. I absolutely love Julia.

Kenny Wright

Good catch. Fixed.

quizkid

"pulled the wide of her thong out for me to slip the bill in" something is wrong with this sentence.

Kevin Goodman

Julia definitely wants to fuck David. I hope it happens soon


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