Fireside Chat for WWW ep45 “Nothing”
🕑 Added 2025-04-01 11:30:04 +0000 UTCCareful, this cave is full of hahas. Specifically, our new cast members: Don Squirming, Schafer Paragraphs, and Anne Tease Dobelikethat. Are
Careful, this cave is full of hahas. Specifically, our new cast members: Don Squirming, Schafer Paragraphs, and Anne Tease Dobelikethat. Aren't they lovely folks?

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Jordan
Okay apparently Schaffer Paragraphs are a thing, and it is coincidence the next guest star on fireside is Mr. Shafir Paragraphs XD
FortressCrow
Fully had to pause the pod so I could cry laughing at Aabria's "oh bother"
Ze wizzard Schadenfreude (AlexR.)
I propose for the auntie equivalent to avuncular the term 'amitinal'. Not just because of Ame's trajectory... As a source, compare: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/amitinus#Latin
Witch of the Warren of Words
I listened to 50:14 with a full mouth of water while at work and OMG
rosa bronks
I beat my sister at Love letter by going full vibes based. I'm making decisions that did not make sense from a strategic point of view. She had a full Suvi in Port talon style crash out and I laugh so hard I nearly threw up. She was 33. She has two children.
LSky670
I felt that but about the in-world time. My home game has been going for over a year, and 3 days have passed in the story.
Fraud_Monet
"... and when I do you'll be able to see it from the front." Fucking. Bananas.
Madeline Salter
So glad Brennan and Izzy also picked up on that elevator moment in Severance. Me and my partner had the same reaction! But in hindsight maybe it was a sign that Mark and Ms Casey's love isn't (as) real because they Kidd first instead of run, but Helly and Mark run first and that's all we see in the end. That's real love, seeking safety and care first.
Niyela
Fun fact about mirrors for the wizard Sky. The black spots old/vintage mirrors get is a process called "weathering", also "mirror rot" or "desilvering". Even "foxing" is a word for it ;) never know when it can be useful!!
Zoop
On the topic of taking out a skilled & analytical competitor by playing as an unpredictable/non rational actor, I often say that “beginners luck” in poker is actually just a function of the new player not knowing wtf is in their hand and thus innately being unreadable. I’ve always found it rather funny that in most variations of poker, The worst thing a new player can do in a game against an experienced player, is actually learn the rules because not only do the more ways you understand the game works, open more avenue for your opponent to manipulate you, you also become instantly susceptible to other players perceptive abilities the moment you understand what makes a good hand. And keeping in line with the poker comparison/metaphor, Yorins philosophy seems to be, along the lines of “the only way to beat a master poker player is to refuse to learn how to play and go off vibes alone”
Kimberly W
Shout out to the recent Contrapoints FILM (admiringly) on conspiracies, really changed my brain chemistry with that one
Kimberly W
Re: what brennan was saying about how moments of vulnerability lead to an empathetic reaction and connection in some people and a negative reaction in others -- I've been thinking a lot recently about how so many people, especially in the US right now, are flocking and clinging to conspiracy theories or strongman bullies or religion or social hierarchies or whatever their thing is because they feel scared and out of control and they need the comfort of believing that bad things happen for a reason. That the world isn't full of unfathomable chaos and uncertainty, theres a group pulling the strings, its a secret hidden plan. this guy clearly has shit figured out because he acts so confident, so I should probably follow him and he will help me feel in control of my life. Some people recoil from vulnerability because they're scared of it in themselves, they cannot cope with the idea that there is no inherent meaning or virtue in suffering. no one has life figured out, we're all trying to figure it out together, were on a rock hurtling through space and we're each responsible for the things we do, good and terrible. Suvi and her uncle bond over her vulnerability because they recognize themselves in the other. Some people don't seem to have that capacity, but I wonder if the world might be better if more people did...
Zekky
SEVERANCE SPOILERS I agree that making out in an elevator before you know you’re home safe is naive; but it made perfect sense in the scene- outie mark doesn’t know for certain if he’ll ever see Gemma again- he has to trust innie mark to get them both out of the facility (which, spoiler, innie mark doesn’t do, innie mark stays inside) so for mark to spend the last seconds of his consciousness kissing Gemma is, I think, exactly right, that’s what someone would do if they didn’t know that they’d ever have another second with the person they love
Lexie Jones
I love the Irony of Suvi getting gills like Morrow.
elijah
It’s here
Jason Leigh
Do you have the timestamp this is mentioned? and also the game changer/make some noise episode?
Joanna Szabo
They haven’t yet said there’s gonna be a delay, so I’m hopeful.
AmorettiFace
Is there a new episode coming out today?
Jack Barlow
Y’all, the fact that the jet skis from the Panama arc were for a Game Changer prompt has me *shook*
Carrie Mook Bridgman
There are three Umora one-shots: Twelve Brooks, The Clearing, and The Matsui. There's also Space Cram.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
"You need reps, you need laps." And I would not have thought of the Garak reference, but yes.
The Wizard Sionnach
Two!
TWSanto
Apparently the King of Night has been a secret shadow king of Gauthmi for a long long time and he lost the last war against the Empire and Citadel. The guy seems to hate humans a lot too.
David Ritchey
Are there no more one shot episodes like county affair?
Gabe
*spoilers for game changer* I have no where else to put this LUO ACTUALLY HAS A JETSKI!!!! I thought it was a bit this whole time!
J cryingcrow
i've never laughed out loud at a podcast before and i'm so glad it was today. oh god, the don.... cramming himself down a tiny river bed.... i hope this stays with me for a long time, absoloutely cracked me up
The Pompous Peasant
Can someone tell me why the empire and the gauthmi are at war?
Noah Sam
Grilled Mage (when hit by a fireball)
Noah Sam
Looking forward to meeting Schäfer Paragraph at the next Fireside
Noah Sam
I do know and it fits
Matrix Hibiscus
Does anyone else picture Pedro Pascal as Yoren?
Geneviève Marian
Definitely 💯
Michael
I swear I heard Brennan do his Tim Curry impression
Thomas
Tacitus mentioned!!! I’ve been waiting for this
Michael Munene
The hair question in this question totally has me imagining Suvi putting her hair in either tight brains, or dreds, as she enters her Mirror era.
Kristen
The last 5 minutes was worth at least a year’s worth of subscription.
Emily C
"Hi, I'm Eioghorain, and I'm a shape shifter with a big ass" - Game Changer finale anyone?
Peyton Rose
I imagine when they say it out loud or won't immediately change to the wizard () like it does for their real name
Iryn
I’m with you Erika: end of the world smooch is 💯 valid. There’s a difference between celebrating feeling being alive and chasing not being dead. There’s a spectrum between dreamer and soldier
Silly Goose
Listened while washing dishes before bed and when Aabria said “I just heard the Lemon Lady ovulate,” I let out a singular HA so loud that I’m afraid I woke up my partner upstairs and the newborn next door
Bo0gie
I had a weird thought. What if a wizard wrote a different name down as if it was their own. Would you then think it was their true name
Ryan Leeson
Learned it on piano but I'm still crying. What a beautiful song Taylor and Brennan.
Alyssia
March madness mentioned at the fireside my worlds are colliding :)
Jazz
Fun shark facts Bull Sharks despite being saltwater sharks love to travel up freshwater rivers and when you hear about a freshwater shark attack (which is still rare, sharks don't like to attack people) it's usually them. They are also infamous for being considered the most "aggressive" and also trash eating (literally but also they seem to just eat almost anything which is probably related to the "aggression"). In my head he turned into a bull shark which would and could easily navigate the freshwater :)
samp
also extremely relatable to hear aabria say "they're not people yet, they're these beautiful concepts" about relationships when you're young because that's EXACTLY how it is
samp
oh my god i thought suvi and silver had been dating for YEARS. thank y'all for clarifying this. i definitely tried to write a fic about them and spent several hours trying to figure out literally a single reason they would be attracted to one another's characters other than just sharing a dedication to the citadel
Ryan Leeson
Unrelated to this episode, I have tried time and time again to sing a bass cover for The Rain Road and can not get through it without crying.
TheWizardShrimp
Wouldn't it be fun if Brennan was making up audience questions so he can get more insight into the characters so that he can play with his chess piecea with more accurate cruelty
Faetale
Next episode crackle crackle Wubba Wubba buy the end of book 1 we are going to preforming full onomatopoeia I need 30 secs of just sound effects
Tralan
"If you need to be great at lying when the chips are down, you need to be lying all the time" Hell yeah, Garak
Hazel Rose
Best story ever told
NevrMs
Wubbah wubbah wubbah
Entropy_Head
I love the discussion on Suvi’s new style n theme. It’s like she and Task are both products of the Citadel taking sand and making glass to create clarity, and using mirrors to create deeper complexity only to then create two beings so complex they can go off and find clarity for themselves
Simon Mills
Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba Wubba 🍑
Troy Lowrance
Materteral is the aunt version of avuncular
Iris
You know… with more time, I truly believe someone would have slipped up and said “Hidden Taint” instead of “Hayden Tint” and I think that’s beautiful ❤️
The King of House Cabraescuro
Wherein the ending tune I used to hear "crackle crackle" I now hear "wubbah wubbah"
Zander Jenkins
Another bullshit episode without Dime Pimento
Carrie Mook Bridgman
I am pretty sure I heard Taylor cackle again at that point. The wheeze is Brennan; the cackle is Taylor.
Ben Brownlee
Being at the fireside is the best way to spend $5.
Conor Steinke
Am I misremembering or do spirits just have great asses? The coal/forge dude in the ice castle, maybe the little river guy back in Toma. I feel like the players are demanding butt granularity in the worldbuilding. Because it's either that or I'm painting my own word pictures.
Sil
That guy at your bar straight up sounds like an Australian keeping livestock or pets safe on a qtr acre or larger 😂
Ryan Malony
I feel that that dnd timeline struggle. I've been running a game for more than 5 years and I've deliberately sped up time in places... We still haven't made it past month 6 c:
Witch of the Remembering Bog
I get knocked down/but I get up a— oh wait
Witch of the Remembering Bog
Aabria’s character driven storytelling genius is so fucking good every time. That brain 🥵
Witch of the Remembering Bog
We need it in 3-5 frames 💯
Witch of the Remembering Bog
Goodnight everybody (🍰🍰🆙)
Ina
I’m with the Chaos Reign Strategy! My big brother lost to my button mashing in Street Fighter, to his eternal rage.
mguin
Normal people are the weirdest people, truer words were never said the most bland dry-toast person you've met has done at least one unhinged thing that you wouldn't dream of them, guaranteed
Cortney Rogers
Ame telling the lie of a frontline lover and Lemon Lady being like, bitch me too is wild. She even risked giving an innocent guard a head injury for the D.
Ician
The in-person energy was strong in this one; glad you all had fun at camp!
Andi
Omg! My question was 1st in the ep!
irisilmaril
they actually are still taping Chapter 4 they said its REAL. long
TeacupTheBopcaJournalist
Back at camp and the chaos is STONG!!!
Sil
I had no idea what this meant until I looked them up and realised "Oh this is just an analytical essay structure" 😂 I'd never heard them called that before
Sil
Absolutely everybody in my life is going to be on Brennan's ass when I tack on a "if I'm going to be great at lying when the chips are down, I have to be lying for no reason, all the time. I need reps, I need LAPS" to my "a dishonest man you can trust to be dishonest" monologue 😂
Geleisa George
not me having Wild One tendencies
The Witch of Wicked Gainz
My favorite mirrors were Galani’s in Port Talon! Seeing around corners! Teamwork! Redirection! It’s all there
Aubrey
yall posted this on Toshirô Mifune’s birthday 🙂↕️
Alex W.
I hear one mention of Jane Schaffer essay paragraphs and my little literary nerd heart is *exploding*
Claire
Aabria, I have to disagree, what about avauntgarde?
Emily C
Not the wubba wubbas - desperately need fan art of the thumb in mouth, ass caked up, perhaps so desperately I will make a bad rendition myself (no promises)
Alyssa
Aabria’s “I’m kicking him in the dick today, herewego!” made me wheeeeeeeze
GrumblyArcher
Last game of risk I played involved repeatedly taking and holding Mongolia with a huge ball of troops and utterly derailing the plans of everyone around me again and again with that simple strategy. I was also incredibly feverish at the time.
we're besties with testees don't test these besties
"Its a podcast about nothing!" *George Costanza voice
Burke
Look mark and Gemma were in the elevator, not kissing won't make it go faster, I'm with Erika
Ko-Wahi Kit
So TL:DR, my vote is for Amitular (Ah-Mitch-U-Lar). Other options are Materterine/Materteral/Materterous, or the very boring vanilla auntacular (booooo, save that one for the greeting cards).
Ko-Wahi Kit
So I hunted down where the fuck “Avuncular” comes from and it’s basically Latin for “Maternal Uncle.” TL:DR options at the bottom. Also I used google and Wiktionary for this and don’t know shit about Latin, so any “grammar” is purely vibes based. Enjoy!! Google says Maternal Aunt is “Matertera,” so I guess the corresponding word for Auntie shit is Matertercular? Materteral? Materterine? Materterous? Mah-Tear-Tar-us? That’s probably the easiest one to say (and kinda sounds like “Tartarus” which is fun) but the double ter-ter doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue. :- / And we can’t shorten it because “Mater” is Mother. Now that being said after doing some digging “Aunt” is from the Latin word Ami (water), which linguists think turned to “Amma/amita” (wet nurse, paternal aunt), and then became “Aunte” in Middle English. So Amitular might also be a good option. Clearly we don’t care that avuncular refers only to maternal uncles so why not use the paternal aunt word? It’s also very fun to say! Ah-Mitt-Tu-Lar. A-Mitch-U-Lar. Ah-Mitt-Chu-Lar. But also avuncular has the word “unc” in it and modern English says FUCK YOU to grammar rules that make words hard to say, so I think we could also roll with Auntacular, though I personally don’t like it because it sounds too much like the modern word and half the fun of avuncular is that people don’t immediately clock the connection to uncles. It sounds lofty and obscure instead of the still very modern move of adding suffixes to words we use daily.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
I really appreciated Mr. Tint's discussion of Eursulon's state of mind. It makes sense. It also reminded me of the way Aabria describes Suvi's response to criticism: "Noted for future reference. Let's move." [Paraphrased.]
Carrie Mook Bridgman
Thank you for this.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
My nerd problem with the shapeshifters' forms is having ocean creatures in a river. Alligators, sure. Sharks and squid would need saltwater, yes?
Carrie Mook Bridgman
Brennan has been recruited.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
Sven, I was waiting for this.
James Begley
Just a Not so little guy.
Ty6260
March Ass-ness is crazy
Just a Fox
Not the part about Task being little Suvi making me cry in public 😭😭
Just a Fox
Absolutely same. I was like "Nice... I could see that" and then my train of thought was immediately derailed by the Erika/Hayden conversation 😂
Brandon Carbaugh
My favorite part of every collaborative storytelling endeavor is when you all look back together and realize that, because of how you structured scenes and cliffhangers around mornings and nights, you have accidentally truncated a crazy amount of events into like 2 months of time. I've had it happen in both D&D and writers' rooms. They even do it in the last season of Breaking Bad, where someone is like "Man, what a crazy year this has been Mr White," and as the viewer you're like WHAT?!
Trina McDaniel
Cackling in my kitchen as I feed my cats and make my coffee is the best way to start today. Thank you all for being hilarious and brilliant and amazing!
GC
Not far in but I think this is one of the best-ever Firesides! The sand => glass => mirror stuff is blowing my mind. It has the same dizzy feeling for me as the hyperoperations (addition is repeated succession [+1], multiplication is repeated addition, exponentiation is repeated multiplication, but you can keep going: tetration, pentation, 😱...) What's next after mirror? (shivering)
xatlern
The one and only time I played a full game of risk I was on track to come in third, but the person who was in second made the absolutely wild choice to take a bathroom break at a critical point in the game, and was then shocked that I'd made an alliance with the person who was leading, so I ended up in second 😂😂😂
Jaxson Denton
I like to imagine our very gruff and grumpy shapeshifter turning into the most petite and dainty Don we’ve ever seen
Wren
Ah, I'm pretty sure it was "4 A/B hair." It's referring to textures of hair, with 4-type hair being more coiled/kinky than white people's hair (usually) is. I'd suggest looking up the hair typing system for more details!
Bex
A TEACUP MEG I'M CRYYYYYYING
Annie A
I’ve been so anxious about the Indri gift I know it’s gonna fuck something up
katnotkitty
Inside of us are two wolves. One of them is Frank/Brennan. The other is Spencer/Aabria.
Connor Sponsler
Half expected the "Nothing" episode on April 1st to be just that
Cait Batchelor
Also known as lemon lady
Cait Batchelor
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY BRENNAN AND IZZY - also please i beg of you, treason grandma full story
Mack Whaley
Camp camp camp!!! Love these beautiful minds! I hope camp is so perfect!!!
CommodoreBlue
They’re at camp?!?! Space campaign inbound!!!!
The Spirit of Vicious Inspiration
sensual formality, everyone's doing it! real talk that's gonna be a Severance episode title next season 😅
Erik Hanson
The group saying that it just feels so good to know that Keen is dead, the following lyrics sprang to mind from an old Mr. Rogers' classic: It's such a good feeling, To know that Keen's dead! It's such a happy feeling, For "Off with his head!" And when you wake up, ready to say: "I'm glad that Keen can't hurt me today!" It's such a good feeling, A very good feeling, The feeling you know Keen is dead!
Antonia Canosa
We’ll bring the tower down and when we do you’ll be able to see it from the front
GC
3 minutes in and I have fully lost it at "4AD hair" [edit: nope, see below] Suvi listening to the Hope Blister on cassette, trying to get Ame into Throwing Muses, giving Eursulon a Dead Can Dance mixtape
Fen Petrichor
also, big ups to Aabria calling out that Suvi is still not done from the Citadel, because that's not how this shit workssss
Urban Soul
Idk if that was just a bit but hearing Aabria and Erika briefly dated just had me cock an eyebrow in curiosity and just think "...nice". Still, not my business either way.
Noliam Samoht
For thoes who were curious. The largest great white reliably recorded was 19.7ft twice that is 39.4ft, the size I imagine Mr.Mulligan was thinking of, which is huge but not the 60-70 estimated feet of the Megalodon
Carrie Mook Bridgman
"Task is little Suvi--a thing built for a specific purpose, and then a kindness is showed, and then you get to be different because of it.... Suvi exists as a reckoning for the Citadel, so we're gonna mirror-code her and be like, cool, I'm gonna hold up a mirror to your whole shit." Aabria blowing everyone's mind and making Erika cry in real time. Again.
Rachael
I needed this joyful episode today. Thank you so much for the stories you tell and the love and laughter you share. You are all truly a brilliant shining light in these horribly dark times. ❤️
Jack Jones
Its great we get both haha yall are great
Jack Jones
Checking out the fireside for insight on character motivation?🚫 Checking out the fireside to see who's got the best ass?✅️
Fen Petrichor
Ahoo hoo! I started my own version of a children's campaign 2 years ago with a month timeline for the kids to get out of Feywild-meets-Woods Between the Worlds, and we're barely halfway there so it does not surprise me that Ame has quite a bit of time left!
YourAnimeDad
Glad this wasn't a fool
Gellie Doerr
I need a sticker that says "Normal people are the weirdest people in the world."
Bea W
💛
Whyse Wytch
Brennan talking about how rattled bad people become when faced with vulnerability-- I just think of the banquet scene from season 2 of Carnival Row.
Sofia marcelli
Did not realize how much like… anticipation comes from submitting a question for the Fireside, even if the question doesn’t get answered. Like. You put a crazy amount of effort into listening for your submission the episode! That’s wild!
Jessica Conaway
Honestly, in the episode listening to the megalodon bit, my mind accepted it and just made the river like the size of the Mississippi. I was like 'oh this river is huge!' 😆
Muadwho
Sand: Destruction Glass: Creation Mirror: Observation (Reflection/Transcendence) 🤔 Pulling the threads...
Kevin Rice
Ahoo hoo! Crackle cracker!
CallSomeone
Wubbawubbawubbawubbawubba
Bill Posters
Horner Corner Update was insane man
Inverse Switch
The back-at-camp energy is infectious! Love to hear it ☺️
Clockworkjohnny
I'm trying to sneak into twelve Brooks but the clap of my ass cheeks...
Clockworkjohnny
Wobble wobble wobble
James
Ohhhhh Aabria mentioning that associating Suvi with mirrors is like a called shot bc she'll be holding up a mirror to all of the Citadel... it's like the in-universe called shot of the namecloak. Like how they mentioned that picking a namecloak that represents a lot of things or can mean a lot of things is basically saying "this is how great a wizard I will be" (bad paraphrase on my part).
Samantha Nicole
Gilled Mage, Gilded Mage, Guild Mage 🫨
Bill Posters
Also anyone purchasing food chain magnate just kinda gets done like that
Sofia marcelli
Ahoo hoo, crackle crackle!!!
Nolf!
Ahoo hoo. Gew morning
Samantha Nicole
Ahoo-hoo Good Morning Y’all
The Wizard Cyan
🖤
Bill Posters
Ahoo hoo I think it's just that mirrors have stopped reflecting the inside of the citadel and started reflecting the rest of the world instead
SvenTS
Pertaining to aunts is Materteral. Almost never used but it does exist!
Devon
Suvi go back to the red! Healing and returning to our inner child later in life is really popular rn
Ryan L.
Yay😎🥳🥳🥳
Whyse Wytch
I'll have to listen when I get off work in 20 minutes. Keep the pod warm for me, Beyonders.
TheloniousPunkyBrewster
It's Still got that new podcast smell 👃🏻
Kalunyx
Crackle crackle y'all!! 💜I'm so excited for this one
Glen Petrofski
Always fun being the first to comment
SvenTS
A-hoo-hoo Fools!