Behind the Scenes "Spider, Cave, Book"
🕑 Added 2025-03-13 18:14:36 +0000 UTCSPOILERS ahead! Don't read or listen if you're not caught up with episode 44 "To the Bone"!
SPOILERS ahead! Don't read or listen if you're not caught up with episode 44 "To the Bone"!
After we recorded episode 44, Aabria had some questions for Brennan about what exactly was in those spellbooks she found on the bodies of the drowned guildmages. We thought, "Might as well jump back in the studio and have that convo on mic in case it turns out to be interesting for our dear patrons," and reader? We think it is. And so here is a little vignette of what exactly the wizard Sky gets up to while the shapechangers slumber nearby.

Comments
Morgan Gano
What I love about Ame as the one who puts herself in vulnerable positions is that vulnerability is how you create connection to others. And being the Witch of the World’s heart is about making connections, so the function of her vulnerability is almost necessary to her position and responsibility and the way she moves through the world.
Sam Goldrick
Just discovered these BTS posts and loving it!! ❤️❤️
Morgan Perkins
Did anyone just hear the song fireball break out when Suvi scored the fireball spell? I could just imagine a celebratory dance party happening…
Sean Boyce
An argument in support of doing this sort of thing for every class, especially sorcerers and warlocks: it really, really helps emphasize the nature of the class's relationship with magic. Sorcerers practicing spellcasting is unlocking new mutant powers, basically. Unlike Wizards, they need to be in a situation that's more improvisational than practical, just twiddling on the keys of their magic and seeing what takes form. For Warlocks, there's a couple different shades. For those in service relationships, I like to assign them glib little prophecies which are clues to the magic they have unlocked. For those in more adversarial relationships, you can come up with a hundred and one ways they are "stealing" more magic from their Patron, and the sort of evolution of that relationship as a result. It only really doesn't work for the "knows all their spells" classes, your clerics and druids. Though I had a great star Druid player once who actually used astrology and constellations to justify their spell lists, which I thought was awesome.
Kelsey Killoran
Oh, I didn’t think of that!
Aviva
Sup, fellow nerd. I see you.
Aviva
Maybe contact Fortunate Horse?
Aviva
W.T.F. D:
Theo Vařák
Yes, they are counterspell talamori
Sil
I wonder if also Shifter (Pathfinder 1st)? "Both a devoted defender of druidic circles and a fierce predator, the shifter can take on the forms of nature and even fuse them together with devastating effect and unbridled savagery."
GrumpyTrees
There are so many Little Guys (tm) in this game. Task is a sweet good little entity and I love them.
M Dorsey
!!!!!!
AGENTAPPLES
Being invested in the story, I forgot that they’re not at fifth level yet.
Kelsey Killoran
I feel very similarly, and I am so glad you thought to share your feelings here in this thread 😌 It helps us feel less alone
Kelsey Killoran
I’m not sure where else to ping WBN, but Taylor’s outro music is being used uncredited in videos on Instagram 😡
The Pompous Peasant
Are Zeros talamori? I'm on Peace & Quiet and been a bit since I've listened, can't remember. Thanks!
Mitchell Jessup
Just want to leave a little thankyou message here. WBN has reawakened a part of me that i thought was dead, my spark for wonder and hope in life. Words alone cant really encapsulate the gravity of what that means to me, so i just want to thank everyone at WBN for creating and managing this project. You have given me a chance to see happiness in my world again.
Lael Newton
I wondered this too and am a little bummed because I was rooting for her to take Suggestion, I think it's more interesting than just another offensive spell and you know Suvi would put it to good use. ah well :')
Devon
I love how polished the episodes are but I loved the quality of sound in the mics and hearing all the soft dice rolls, hearing yall laugh and talk like friends playing 💗 Great bone cone
Nefeli
Honestly we could get 1 hour of Lingua Arcana class and I would be on the edge of my seat
Lex Beckley
She had hemmed and hawed for a second and then just said continue. I wonder if it was her realizing she just agreed to get the wrong spell but decided that she would stick with scorching earth.
DomPie
Laerryn to Suvi: Yes
Tramaine Franklin
More "Suvi Scribes Spellbook"!
WesKane truly insisting he isn't here 4 Rems boobs
I regret changing my user name for a joke on a another podcast i am so sorry everyone 😂
L J
The same as people who don't get the best case for their phone. "Oh I'll be careful with it, obviously I'll never get it near water" and then an accident happens. They've enchanted the binding to be super reinforced and anti-ripping spells on the paper itself, like getting a screen protector. Even if someone spills a drink on a desk, wouldn't prestidigitation take care of that I think? Okay now I'm imagining some very annoyed wizard having to find a big bag of rice to stick their most precious possession in, lol.
L J
Our girl needs a NAP
Michael Babcock
Hell yeah! Some boneified BONE CONE!
Sil
I think I recognise that vocal stimming, Brennan 😂 those are the "I have this written down somewhere, I'm doing math and while I do both, I'ma make hold music sounds with my face" noises
Lyndall Cave
Saaame!
Mehmet
This is so sick. I will definitely let a wizard PC try this next time I actually have a Wizard in one of my games.
kyle sargent
Suvi needs to start learning/inventing a spell that allows her to get the rest her body and mind needs without sleeping. She skips more long rests than any other dnd character Ive ever seen
KamasiFitzgerald
to quote DJ from a recent make some noise: I'm WET
Braden W
Now THIS is some 𝘀𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗱 Bone Cone™
Prince Kirby
this is exaclty the kind of combination of lore and crunch that i came here to see hell yes
Boston
Yes more of this please!
Lonoran
i love rolling numbers to get rewards!!!!!!!!!!! i love dice i love loot tables yessss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pyrohydriscence
I'm so excited for Suvi to ruin someone's entire life with counter spell.
Bill Posters
The dice tell a story and that's Aabria should always be able to cast Fireball
Erin Hopkins
MERCH REQUEST
Nate
Pre-prepared is a normal mechanic in dnd. Wizards have can have a longer list of "known" spells but have to pick a shorter list of spells that they have "prepared" for the session to be able to cast at will.
Michael Yong
I LOVE ME SOME BONE CONE
Jactothemac
Same!
Just a Fox
BIIIIIG RESPECT for roleplaying the inscribing of wizard spells into a spellbook! I feel like this is a thing so often glossed over or handled by the player themselves in-between sessions and this little piece of Bone Cone made me realize: that's a damn shame! It feels like it can actually be really impactful to play out the act of wizards gaining new spells from transcribing them from somewhere else. As a DM, I have just never known how to implement this, or if it would even be fun. But this is pretty inspiring. I'll go submit a question to the fireside, asking Brennan to get nitty gritty with how he determined what spells, what level and how many could be sourced from the spellbooks. I NEEED to know the process!
Sam Leitermann
I think they’ve said in fireside’s it’s all theater of the mind (though they did at least have a physical map of the shroud mountains at some point?) Agreed that I think Brennan does a good job of both enforcing rules and allowing the situation to breathe and not feel confined to those rules.
Paige
This was the perfect amount of time to help me power through some dishes I REALLY didn’t wanna do. 😅
Ethan Dibeh
It just occurred to me that I don't know if the game is played entirely Theater of the Mind or if Brennan runs certain combats on physical tactics. I am such a fan of how this crew uses magic in slightly unintended ways, and stretches definitions a bit to go by the rule of cool or rule of vibes. I think the best example would be Ame's calm emotions in Abbasin, or just about anything in the first season's encounter with Niram and Orima. Magic just feels bigger and more cinematic when it's not super restrained by the rules of range or targeting capacity.
chey
when aabria said "can you look at that" I KNEW she rolled a 19 for that 28 haha. also, "if this works your my dad now", what a great line 😂
Ren Challacombe
What a lovely treat!!! Suvi’s got those hot rolls now!!
Chappy Hall
Wait so did Suvi take suggestion or scorching ray? At first it sounded like suggestion and see invisibility but then Brennan said scorching ray, but I don’t remember hearing Aabria change her mind. Maybe I just missed it.🤷🏼♂️
Sid Richey
DRUID EOIRGHEN CONFIRMED.
Erin
What a delightful surprise of bone cone!
WesKane truly insisting he isn't here 4 Rems boobs
God i want a Task spider enamel pin lol
Sam Rapine
Best kind of Cone out there is Bone!
MrContent
Maybe they have some newer Stephen King in there. A little Under the Dome?
Kellie O Edwards
Gonna be super real.... what kinda wizard doest make their spellbook waterproof??? You have MAGIC, why not fix the SOLE PROBLEM of having hella books (moisture absorption)
Toe
Aabria Iyengar the wizard that you are <3
Daryl Wojtowicz
This was dope!
rio
That's really interesting because Brennan set pre-preparedness at a lower DC than being able to copy the spells in 2 hours, which would only be rewarding if he expects a level up in the middle of some kind of encounter
Amaya
I think it means that once she hits that level then she'll immediately be able to cast it. So even if she leveled up mid combat, she wouldn't have to wait till she's out of combat to stock that spell
Amaya
Words can't explain how badly I want Suvi to level up mid combat like Eursulon did and then immediately have access to fireball since it'll be pre-prepared
rio
I DESPERATELY NEED TO KNOW WHAT PRE-PREPARED MEANS
Toe
I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT TWO WEEKS FOR THIS INFO 👀👀👀
G Jinx
Gotta love some wizard shit!
Jay
love this!!! love these extra details woahhh
Emily C
let's go Bone CONE
Ruvi
28 !! SUVI SO HOT !!!
Emily Mitchell
Love to all the nerds <3
Lilith Evenstar
Guildmage Bonecone!
Luko Maelstrombrain
Arc 5 the gang travels through the Bardo to confront all their deceased loved ones and FINLEEEYY who’s just visiting!
kogdin
Love that this opens up the possibility of leveling up mid session or Sky getting an item that allows for 4th level spell slots (maybe her citadel staff already does and she only needed to unlock her own understanding to access it which could interact interestingly, not that we know she's ever going to use it again at this point) to pop off the most classic wizard cannon in d&d. Not a guarantee, but it'd be pretty cool.
DaShawn Coleman
WIZARD BONE CONE!!! WOO!!!
Jonathan Silva
LOVE THIS MORE PLEASE
MG
Oh I’m so fuckin excited to see when Suvi will get to use those higher level spells. Thank you for this lil bit of extra goodies!!
Ruvi
BONE CONE :DD
Aabria Iyengar
This made me bark laughing at the airport just now. Damn.
Michael Johnson
And now I’m screaming. The dice tell a story and by god is this so appropriate.
Raquel Albert
You spoil us, love it!
kat martin
That is, in fact, the correct choices
Faith-is-Spooked
Bone cone! :D
Ryan L.
Amazing Bone Cone!
clafford
BONE CONEEEE!!!! And here I was thinking I would be sad having to wait all week for the fireside.
Kate K
Wizard bone cone!! Omg yay~~~
Worlds Beyond Number
They were also sharing a dogeared copy of George Saunders' "Lincoln in the Bardo" but we cut it because of the world-building implications.
Jack Jones
what a pleasant surprise
Pateeoh
We love the bone cone!
Oliver Denny
YOOO BONE CONE
Amber Cekander
To the Bone Cone!
Chris LaGreca
Hell yeah. More stuff like this for the mechanics sickos pls
Jim Redding
This is the bone cone that I LIVE FOR
Beatriz Costa
Bone cone!!
Kellie O Edwards
Oh HELL YESSSS
MrContent
Hell yeah, what those soggy bois readin
Michael Johnson
I’m only 1:40 seconds in and I’m positively dripping in anticipation
Krusty Bo Busty
boner coner
ScoutHooligan
Ahoo hoo lovely bonecone!
Kendrck Hebert
Stuff like this is AMAZING, glad it exists, glad it’s separate, glad I get alerts for this kind of stuff
Terance MacKenzie
Ah hoo hoo
Mark van Dijken
yes BONECONE
Jeffrey Reisdorf
Lovely Bone Cone on a Thursday afternoon
Shawn Ritz Arthur
Glad to get to know this, it's always exciting to learn about new spells available to spellcasters. Exactly the kind of Bone Cone I'm looking for
CaptLizianthus
YES BOOK NERDS
Sea Moose
BONE CONE!!!!