Fireside Chat for LEVELING UP (3 to 4)
🕑 Added 2024-10-03 09:00:06 +0000 UTCYou "game heads" might know that the software we use to run the show is called "Dungeon and Dragon." Welp, it's time for a software update in the form of LEVELING UP. So save your documents, reach around the back of the show, filp the power switch to off, then on again, pour yourself a nice hot coffee and join us in fellowship as the show makes a bunch of weird groaning sounds, flickers, and restarts, somehow even better than before.
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Morgan Fe
I wonder what happened with the October 1st Halloween thing they had planned on doing? I had seen the announcements that they had posted for this section of posts (2024) & it seems that it never happened.🤔
Emily Quinn
LITERALLY
CommodoreBlue
The origin of the Inflict Wounds hits so different now
Diamond
Listening to this AFTER Eursulon takes his oath has me 😭😭😭😭
The Wizard Spwerm
I find it beautiful that the relationship between Suvi and Ame is complimented in the mechanics of the choice of feats (observant) and spells (identify) 🥹
AL2VAR .
Suvi should totally be proficient at deception.
Saleibriel
"My claws look like this so their staves can look like this" xD
Nep Nep
That is the first time I've heard the snakes don't have hands thing and I'm trying to my hardest to not laugh like a madman in my office
Michael McNamara
Edict 2: Must always fail feats of strength if they have just introduced themselves.
Michael McNamara
Oath of the Strongest Man in Silbury. Edicts: Must always introduce self as 'The Strongest Man in Silbury'. Anathema: Must never turn down a chance to demonstrate a feat of strength.
Danielle Hood
If you're homebrewing for Eursulon, how about calling it Oath of the Honorable Friend?
Theo Vařák
Loving every comment here spelling Eursulon wrong in a different way 😭
Theo Vařák
You get max HP at lvl 1 so it should be 3d10 + 22 which is 37. Still only a bit under average though.
SapphoDyl
I think her saying "griffindor" was a joke - just Aabria being a lil silly. Shortly after she brings it up, I believe Brennan reads the actual name from the pdf. Sorry, I don't recall exactly what it was
Preston Brown
Oath of Emancipation. Also isn’t 34 HP the exact average for 4d10+12??
The Wizard “Slut”
BUTTS -abriaa
Tom
Oath of the errant maybe?
Emmmmok
For Eursolon I have in mind something like an Oath of Alignment/Clarity/Unity. Where we see his breath and quest fully intertwined to realize his power. I'm thinking spells like 'Sanctuary' always being prepped. Or even 'Primal Savagery' to really lean into his breathe as a Wild One.
Abigail W
Listening to a pro level up sessions has inspired so much creativity in my home game. Our DM has really taken to holding off on things to honor the story, homebrewing subclasses, and allowing certain rerolls.
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I like the idea of Oath of the Hero; it sounds classic and really makes the knight part shine. Oath of Freedom (as yimyams has said) is also beautiful, it reflects so much of eursulon's journey so far and what he truly believes in. Also an oath of freedom really resonates with remove curse, misty step, and having the strength to break what holds you back and protect those around you. Dimension Door would also feel good, to yoink someone from danger if need be.
Conor Steinke
Diegetic: adjective, occurring within the context of the story and able to be heard by the characters
yimyams
spitballing: oath of valor, oath of liberation, oath of joy, oath of freedom. i forgot what Brennan described the parade of the family of the Great Bear but maybe there is something there too
Zach Ridenour
Ursalon should take oath of the crown but rather than serving a king he serves his true friends
Imogen Xavier
respect for saying No to silvery barbs lmao
Imogen Xavier
Oath of Honor is just such a sick name PLEASE
Imogen Xavier
this feels like the obvious choice, right??
Thomas Hegarty
I would love to see Ursalon’s oath be something like oath of justice or oath of the defender. Something to reflect on his ideology of being there for those who need him or can’t stand up for themselves. He holds his own morality aside from structural establishments which I think is noble and key to his character
Jordan Jones
Ursalan now has one step for each of his TWO feet. The pattern continues
George Hoyle
Theirs three main systems for stats with tons of variants. But the ones to know are point buying, point assigning, and 4d6 drop the lowest. Brennan does a variant where stats are 5d6 drop the two lowest, also for health you can choose to take the average but where is the fun in that.
Cian
Now I listen to every podcast all the way through to the end, because I have Suvi levels of trust that I'll miss post-credits again 💀 but the ADHD, it's like dragging nails down a brain blackboard 😅
Ellie Skiffington
The parallel of Suvi taking shadow touched and Ame taking fey touched is so good
Muadwho
So Suvi learns to Inflict Wounds after meeting Injury... Checks out!
Amy Baker
For some reason this episode won’t play for me? I get a notification that says ‘Something went wrong’, can I get some technical assistance?
Stefanucci Mozzarella
Oath of the “Love me sum-uda pizza pie” covered in-uda home brew sauce ¡Gratzi a mille Lou & Brennando!
The Wizard Sprig
“Oath of Will/The Willful” or “Oath of Determination” come to mind as appropriate possibilities for the strongest man in Silbree
Fxd Gear Queer
Oath of Pancakes, duh.
Ren Dara
Agree! All about the unfolding path, the first example I had for balancing righteousness with collective autonomy in a hero
Ren Dara
this is so dope!
TētēKura
fire
Bugbear
Screaming and shaking the bars of my enclosure shouting "PALADINS DON'T 'KNOW' SPELLS THEY PREPARE THEM"
The Wizard Sparrow
Lots of good word combinations for for oath as I scroll down but what if we shake it up, twist it upside and try … Ode of Oath .. (an ode comes from ancient Greece; elaborately structured poems praising or glorifying an event or individual, describing nature intellectually as well as emotionally) the Ode of Oath could be made up of interchangeable characteristics: whispering winds, intertwined vines, ….ugh…road block🤔
The Wizard Sparrow
Ame’s foxhole spell sounds rad. But yes! The Fox needs to level up. Fancy foot, pretty paws…okay now I’m just having fun😂😂🦊
The Wizard Sparrow
I really like the music at the end, very festival and uplifting kind of want to dance to it
Matt Mayhem
He rolled a three first time round which became a 6 due to his +3 con
Stewart Wyatt
I'm sure that you have already started working on a homebrew option for Eursulon, but I got inspired hearing you all talking about the level up and how you were considering the oath and decided to put my amateur game design skills to use and made this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YE-ZwmtR0uFCeXGIGl0XnZsENeCWQxEiyV2xshcrJ5w/edit?usp=sharing (It does use the 2014 Paladin rules, so might need some adjustment if you're using the 2024 rules.) Loving the show so far, very hyped for Arc 4!
Brovura
I know a guy who survived two hit attempts and his wisdom stat is very low.
Daisy
i want to hear the entire rant i could hear in Brennan's tone when he just said "no" to Silvery Barbs.
Marley McDonough
For Eursolon, I feel like oath of protection is close but I would also like to propose a homebrew class called oath of brotherhood. I don’t have it made but I think it would be rad as hell.
One Punch Max
I don't get leveling for hitpoints and stats. I never played D&D myself, only ever watched/listened to it and this series was the first time I witnessed these mechanics. I always assumed it would be like in Baldur's Gate 3 where you simply have a set pool of points that you distribute the way you want and your class allows.
Bo Schwartz Madsen
And actually higher than that, because they get one reroll 😅
Shavonne
I caught that Michael in the bathroom reference Ericka 😭 lol this pod
Darius Johnson
Oath of the unbound for lou
Conor Robson
Did I mishear or did Lou forget to add his Con Mod on level up, he was 28, he rolled a 6 and then went to 34 instead of 37.
Telly Cruz
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
LFleming221
“I think that the highest levels of brilliance require the questioning mind.” BLeeM—certified Real One
Halestorm
Oath of Honor!
Rebecca Coburn
I love how you use the story to make level up decisions, it makes my story teller heart happy. Love you guys, keep rockin' it. Can't wait for Arc 4! ❤️
AliceH
Same! Was beginning to think I imagined it 😆 but ✨️THE DRAMA✨️ here can't be beat ❤️🔥
Nkai Mitchell
Oath of Freedom for ursalon?
Ylld
First noun that comes to mind for Eursulon is Oath of Liberation!
Erik Hanson
Eursalon wants to swear the Oath of the Beefy Boy.
Dan Durektor
I'd love to see a WBN take on an Oath of Honor subclass
Danielle St John
I've only fairly recently encountered that word *at all*, and even more recently mostly assimilated its meaning, so now, a) I'm particularly aware of it when I happen across it, and b) this episode is doing an excellent job of cementing it in my lexicon so I don't even have to have that split second of going "wait, what does that mean? oh yeah, it means [x]." Yay new vocabulary!
Sil
They take a weekend away to record, I believe in California
DefyAllLogic
What does it mean when they say they are At Camp?
Elias Mycroft
Inb4 it's just Crazy Frog again
Reid Bathgate
I need to introduce yall to the concept of the Box Game. This is something we do in the campaigns my friends and I run. When rolling hit dice, each player can, if they don't like their result, they can take what's in the box. If they take the box, the DM rolls another hit dice and the player MUST take the second result. There is also the IMPROVED Box Game, designed to tempt players who roll the average. In the improved version, the DM rolls a dice one face higher. So if a Wizard rolls a D6, the DM uses a digital app to roll a D7. To make it just a bit more tempting. We love it. When the Box rolls high, it's great! When it rolls low, its hilarious! And then every once in a while a player rolls a 2 and the box rolls a 1, and we tell that story the whole campaign.
Debato Potato
No one tell Lou that the average is 5.5
Tacotrashcan
Oath of the true friend. T_T
thedragonllama
My first thought was Oath of Liberation for Ursalon or even Oath of Spiritual Liberation lol a bit wordy tho
Ian McLeland
Ok fess up, who won a bet against Brennan? Not even he says diegetic that many times on his own
Evelina Meiklejohn
Listening to the fireside feels like being in my college writing workshops again. ❤️ It feels so good to dive deep and analyze narrative and characters. You all are an absolute joy to listen to, every time.
George Hoyle
Remember that it’s easier to be mean and creepy but being creepy and kind is always more memorable.
Trafulger Law
Oath of Sacrifice?
xatlern
Omg I'm planning my next level up right now, and I'm also taking Shadow Touched with Inflict Wounds! I feel like having someone so good at builds talk about the same exact feat bodes well for me and my creepy little sorcerer 🥰
Trafulger Law
Oath of Liberty? Oath of Freedom? Oath of Chainbreaker? All very stoneward core if you have read the stormlight archive
George Hoyle
So the secrets that Suvi currently has are ricochet, contingency, warp and weft, griffindor, discovery and twilight crown However I reread the pdf about five times and couldn’t find the secrets of griffindor and discovery could anyone else? Unless maybe they’re using one dnd rules and she simply misspoke?
Ron Ron
I need a update to Fox's AC n HP! NOW!!
CJ
I really thought this was a set up to "If it ain't Oath, don't fix it" but I haven't listened to the ep yet so I'll just hold out hope the joke is already in there
Joshua Smith
Mind sliver + witch’s grasp is a great team combo just saying
Brandon Carbaugh
I mean look, I don't want to tell y'all how to do your jobs, but as far as Eursulon's oath: if it ain't "Oath of Honor", what are we even doin here?
Sander Goldman
is lou aware that he can change his prepared spells every day?
ollyollyoxfordcomma
Maybe it's just all the other comparisons to Ghibli, but something about Eursulon's position in the story feels very Ashitaka in Princess Mononoke. Walking the line between two worlds that conflict with each other, yet participating in both and loving aspects of both. Seeing with eyes unclouded by hate, evaluating all the information, and choosing for himself when to intervene on the behalf of one side or the other. I love this beefy bear so so much 💖
Shannon Giesige
Oath of the Kith and Kin?
Shannon Giesige
Oath of the found family?
Carrie Mook Bridgman
Has anyone gone back to listen? Did Taylor use the Sir Curran music when Eursulon went to the Antivolist?
Britt Anderson
Trad Husband Eursulon - we love him so much. This Fireside is giving me SO much life, and now I wanna make some more merch spec designs
Britt Anderson
The need to make this into a shirt and/or mug...I...I NEED IT...
rio
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF THE GREAT ONES EURSULON NEEDS A HOMEBREW SUBCLASS 😭 YOU ALREADY MADE TWO SETTING-SPECIFIC HOMEBREWS, YOU GOTTA FINISH THE SET 😱
Emily Mitchell
“Silvery barbs?” “Nope.” That’s why Brennan’s my favourite DM lol
DarkHeroZark
If I had a nickel for every Dune reference the gang made this week, i'd have 2 nickels. Which is not a lot but still weird it happened twice.
Steve Underhill
@51:20 I love how you can recognize the specific tempo and dynamics of Brennan clapping.
Kodi Knight
Dragon’s Breath would be a DELIGHT to see with the fox… Aabria’s onto something
Urban Soul
For some reason, "Oath of the Way-Shadowed" is standing out to me for Eursulon. I've seen people talk about how much he cares about freeing spirits or freedom in general, and while I do think those things are true, I do also believe that these things are true for the MOMENT. Eursulon's current path leads him to freeing whatever spirits may be imprisoned and of course he cares about his own personal agency and autonomy, but he is also seeking "honor" and figuring out what that word means to him and his purpose in the life he now has. That's where the idea of "Oath of the Way-Shadowed" comes in. Eursulon is a man of two worlds, a spirit that unknowingly anchored himself to the material world only to find things and people from that world to stay and fight for. But at the same time, he has not forgotten his roots and would call any spirit he encountered kin and break bread with them if given the chance. This Oath would encompass that dichotomy. It's an oath that wouldn't call on a paladin to enforce or embody a specific ideal because it's not a path that anyone has walked before. Eursulon would be the trailblazer for others to follow behind. Oath of the Way-Shadowed would be a paladin oath that encourages others to find purpose for themselves, to be kind to both mortal and spirit, protect that which they cherish and mete out justice to those who dare chain you down.
Tyler Chapman
I'm so excited/frightened for the next level up. Suvi w/fireball? Big oof.
Bob Chapman
Aabria calling the chapter "three sleeps" when her character DIDN'T...
Britt Anderson
YES! I was thinking about WBN’s Fox the whole movie!
Matthew Maddock
Something like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/s/sMSEYA3c8E
Ron Ron
I need Erika and Taylor anx Aabria to do the Dune song!
Matthew Maddock
I think Lou / Eursulon should think about an Oath of Liberty which also encompasses a kind of political anarchist ethos. Like, Eursulon has had multiple opportunities to just become a part of a larger thing - he could have stayed a spirit with his father, could have joined The Stranger, could have joined the Antivalist and instead he chooses his own path. He also cares *so much* about the emancipation of his spirit brethren, so the idea of freeing others should be part of it. And then the nature of quest fever to me, at least, feels like the moral fever of anarchism as I feel it - that suddenly something is so clearly necessary to do you choose to do it in that moment. So yeah, an Oath of Liberty: personal freedom to not necessarily be part of a larger structure, a desire to free those in captivity, and a moral urge to act when presented with either injustice or something of clear important to Eursulon as an individual.
Lax
I thought it was “reroll all ones and you have one lifetime reroll otherwise,” but the drama it created was so juicy idc
oToastTv
Can we get trad husband Eursulon on a shirt? 😂
Urban Soul
The gang is leveling up? It's been 20 years...
Shelby Welby
Cannot state how much I love these level up episodes
Heliks
Chef is REALLY good! If the powers that be are listening, there's a homebrew Chef feat that Erika might be interested in. It's on DND beyond and it gives some lateral expansion to the feat, were the food you prepare can have different effects.
Nairi Malkhasian
the word of the day is diegetic, everyone!
CommodoreBlue
Feat from Planescape?!? Does that mean anyone has the Planescape backgrounds, like Gate Warden? Also, if Suvi wants healing so much, she should take Wither and Bloom
Martin Cahill
Definitely feeling Oath of Freedom, my home-brew brain is already abuzz if that's the direction we're headed!
Jordan Marschke
Am I missing it or is Secret of Discovery not on the playtest doc for the citadel wizard?
Elizabeth Boskey
Oath of the Saviour/Rescuer/protector is where my brain was going. Although my first thought was oath of friendship.
Elizabeth Boskey
"my immediate instinct is to say no, just based on your facial expression" never have I loved both Aabria and Brennan Moore
Esotericrow
Completely unrelated but this is the latest post and I need my fellow WBN fans to know that the fox in The Wild Robot has INCREDIBLE vibes for those of us that know and love Brennan's Fox. The movie stands in it's own of course but damn is it an extra special treat if you have Umora brainrot like I do.
Ben Fogle
Oath of the Wayshadow?
The Pompous Peasant
Levling up n games like the one were u cango but not to fast lolol;lol you will get down and then may feel teh stink and what if teh whorenast shows up!!!!!
Udoka
Re. Ben Whishaw, he's very good in the west end run of Waiting for Godot if there are any Londoners listening
Ryan L.
Yay! needed this this week ☺️🎉
The Wizard Stressed
"my claws look like this so their staves can look like this" made me nearly spit-take my soup utterly unexpected line for 1 am soup chill time, tho idk why I didn't expect it is y'all.
Patrick Massey
Truly the beefiest level up so far. Y’all are putting my $5 a month to WERK
Nathan Armstrong
I love stat talk even when it’s not with four of my very favorite actual play peeps. Gimme dat crunch!
Sigurt Bladt Dinesen
Wasn't this supposed to come out on the 7th? :D
cystemic
beeefy
Avery Guyer
I didnt realize how much I would love hearing these titans of ttrpg become absolute stat goblins!!!
Thimo Trommer
Absolutely delectable description for thos <3
Natalie Connolly
Brb googling "diegetic"
Archon of Commoragh
Can't keep the hassle of level up😂.
Nicholas Savage AKA Eursulon’s knight in training
Trad husband absolutely killed me 🤣🤣
David
"Butts!"
Grant Pike
He IS the best beefy boy!
KinzokuRa
Given the homebrew backgrounds for Suvi and Ame, I think it is only appropriate for Ursalon to have a HB Oath!! I LOVE THIS STORY SO MUCH!!!
Just a Fox
I, for one, can't wait to see what homebrew oath Brennan and Lou come up with for Eursalon. Your homebrew classes have been fire so far, you're going to knock it out of the park.
Alessandro Chiappetta
I had not yes listened, so maybe you're going to say it there but, are you going to update the characters with the 5.5?
The Wizard Sea
Wooooo one plus of working nights is getting these immediately
ngaire
just in time for my night shift, thank you!!!!
Braeden N.
So your telling me the entire time our true friends were dancing with death in the North Pole they were only level 3?! Wild
SvenTS
Was not expecting this thicc a level up 'sode
Archon of Commoragh
Seems like it thus far.
Steven McELroy
So I wonder if they're doing 1 lvl per chapter.
Pauraic
LETS GOOO
BigMomma
I’m gonna cry I’m so excited