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it's the museum episode

🕑 Added 2021-09-24 14:09:27 +0000 UTC

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Wes Bartlett

One of the best museums I've ever been to is the Royal Mail Museum and Rail-mail exhibit in London.

Please make this one available to all. I have never heard a better summary of western civilization packed into 90 minutes. This should be a gift to humanity for the future. God bless youse mofos. Alice this is a masterpiece.

Onfim is based I fucking love Onfim. I hope Onfim grew up to be a mighty knight who slew many foes!

I have so many thoughts on the 9/11 museum and gift shop in NYC

barely one minute in - "liam do you not know what a museum is" - is A+

Maeve Hightower

That's why the first things are called ur-whatever in the first place, I think.

This is a very interesting perspective on museums, I live in Dublin, Ireland and the main museums and galleries have always been completely free for anyone to wander into and look around so they’re just seen as another public service

Warpwaffel

Fun fact: Sixtus VI isn't a thing yet.

I live in a mid-sized Midwest metropolitan city and have a few colleagues who are curators and conservators, and one of them gave me an essay by Hannah Hölling, "The Aesthetics of Change" given during the symposium "Authenticity in Transition" at the University of Glasgow. I think it tackles similar ideas to what what mentioned in the pod, mainly changing our ideas of preserving objects and "showing" artworks as durational events rather than static objects. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339512954_The_aesthetics_of_change_on_the_relative_durations_of_the_impermanent_and_critical_thinking_in_conservation

CharlotteM

My dad is a manager at a british museum (not going to specify which one) and he has fully redpilled himself on the idea that repatriating any object would be "bad" on the basis that it would mean people would have to visit those countries in order to view them. Apparently visiting TERFisland is completely natural and happens to people by osmosis, but Greece or Turkey are fucking Atlantis.

All games are museums, with the exception of Assassins Creed.

Alex Roselle

Ur was (probably) the first large city in the world, making it (ahem) the ur-city Also, Marxist-Leninist Communists have totally killed a president to match the anarchists, when Oswald killed JFK

Rapture Helmet

A running theme in the history of anthropology is how often colonizers ignored the answers indigenous peoples told them because the answer seemed too obvious. The people on Rapa Nui (Easter Island) told the Spanish the heads got to the coast by "walking". The Spanish assumed this was a ridiculous mythological belief. The Rapa Nui meant "walking" in the same way you move any large, tall object: you make it sort of walk.

Henning Grabbert

Thats interesting. I still kinda think that naming stuff that way is somewhat better than just calling it "christmas Island" or "King Henry Land" or something

A_Aphelion

Similar to the Yucatan situation - the name used for the indigenous nation covering the central area of what is now referred to as Sydney, Australia is 'Eora', which apparently means 'here' in the local language. As in British invaders asked the local people "What is this place where we're standing" and the locals were like "...here?"

Harrison Sanchez

The QuAGoMa and precinct is dope because it's also child friendly and their children's programs are some of the best I've ever experienced - they do low light and sound times for sensory challenged people. If you're ever in Brisbane - recommend - there's currently a bunch of old masters on loan from the MET right now.

Another famous example was Truganini, who was considered 'the last native Tasmanian', since mixed ancestry apparently doesn't count. She was famous when she was young for leading the Friendly Missions that led to her people being exiled from the homes, and before she died she knew she was going to be exhibited, and begged influential people to make sure it didn't happen. They ignored her wishes and displayed her skeleton, as 'the last Tasmanian', in a Hobart museum until the 1970s, when she was cremated and her ashes were scattered by her descendants.

I studied Australian colonialism, and 9 times out of 10 if an Indigenous Australian was famous in any way, their bodies would be mutilated and put on display in museums or curio houses in Britain or Australia. One famous local warrior, Yagan, was murdered and decapitated, his head smoked and sent to England. His ancestors spent 30-40 years campaigning to get it back to put his spirit to rest, and the Australian media mocked them for it. The British museum that had the head had neglected it, buried it with other rotting human remains and then lost the location. Eventually they relocated it, brought it back to Perth and reburied it, but white racists kept decapitating statues of Yagan, so it had to be buried in cement in a secret location to keep it safe.

She's not wrong! I grew up in DC and just moved back and was really bummed their cafe isn't open right now. It's also a fantastic museum in its own right. Fwiw, the Udvar Hazy Air and Space location is a little less military-y. Visiting there and then plane spotting from one of the garages at Dulles can be a nice way to spend a day.

A while ago I went to the Air and Space Smithsonian museum. I am like sweet let’s go see some rockets and planes walking in! Only 10 or so minutes in the building I realize everything I’m seeing as weapons of war. On the top of one of their alleyways they had the first drones that flew over Afghanistan sponsored by Boeing. I’d continue to finish the museum with the dreadful thought in my head “Everything here is dedicated to killing people. This is so fucked up. There is no context to them showing a Nazi V2 Rocket”. I leave the museum all upset that all these little school kids are seeing weapons of war with zero context about how terrible killing millions of people with planes and rockets. I walk over to the Native American museum which just opened. I tell the docent at the front door as I buy the ticket how terrible I feel leaving the Air and Space Museum. After venting she politely turns to me and says “Our food court is really nice you should go there first.”

Noblesse Oblahaj

Those screen savers where the computer bounces around in a brick maze? A museum

ps the only good museum is the National Railway Museum York, with its APT and the last remaining BR hamburger in running order

Last time I was at the Imperial War Museum (pre-covid) the whole top floor was an exhibit about the Holocaust. It seemed rather sombre and downbeat - not really a patriotic jingoistic celebration of the final solution. Perhaps because it was someone else's empire ?

Please Read Worm By Wildbow

Is the RSS feed borked? It doesn’t work in overcast

Pol R

Loved the episode. Stop putting yourselves under so much pressure though!

Benoit Bvg

bruh that's like 1$ per hour. don't expect jack shit for that wage.

JP

Oh shit, I was *at* that Marciano museum union protest pictured! I almost made it into the podcast!

I paid 2 dollars for this it better be good.

TradescantiaHaven

"This is some stuff. Stuff was invented very early in human history."

very good episode, only complaint was that it wasn't like 3 hours long

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Joe Arnold

“Do you not know what a museum is” lmao I love you guys so much

DukeJahu311

Is there any way to listen to the bonus episodes without YouTube? I only ask cause my place of work the wifi just doesn't load YouTube for some reason

James Craft

Jewish people led the anti-changeover protests with chants of, "He's not that special!"

Christian Bloch

Damn that 500 BC museum - they must have had an insane party when time counting switched to AD, just imagine the lead-up to that event!

Marjorie Zeager

The news about the Etruscan Boar Vessel at the Cleveland Museum of Art just about ruined my week. Can’t have shit in Ohio

Anna

This was a great episode! I know Alice used to do a great job captioning the videos, are you guys looking for volunteers to help her out with that? I watch with captions and Youtube did a spectacularly terrible job this time, I'd be happy to help out if you're looking for community volunteer transcribers!

Elder Dog

Congrats Liam it looks like you were right about the etymology of Yucatan. However, there are two other theories regarding the meaning of the word, however the other translations are quite frankly less interesting so I'm just going to ignore it and just say that the Spanish goofed.

James Cézanne-Taipale

As a Cézanne you can just drop that shit. Not worth your health.

JayIsAiight

I'm still waiting for the "wait, it's all Liam" episode where Liam discusses the cinematic universe of Liam with special guest Liam

JayIsAiight

YAY LIAM

Thanks, was awesome seeing you guys live. Please come back again

Andrew Clark

Y'all the best, take all the time you need :)

FortressPlotter

Don't burn yourselves out! Maybe relax with a nice visit to see the Elgin Marbles or the Yuquot Whalers' Shrine.

James Craft

Y'all really needed Abi for the deep philosophical discussions

ViolentOrchid

Killmonger was right, maybe?

Lesley

The legislation affecting the British Museum is repulsive, in two ways. Firstly because "give people's looted stuff back, you monsters", and also what a burden to place on an institution that subsists on generosity.

Dorothy Heinrichs

Don’t apologize- you guys and the TF gang and KJB have been the only thing keeping this nurse sane these days, Thanks for all that you do!

Well There's Your Problem

You're welcome.

Madeline

I want to call Liam stupid because the anarchists failed to kill Frick or w/e his name was and it caused the strikers to lose public sympathy and ultimately caused the strike to break. thank you anarchists!

silvergazer31

None of you have to apologize for anything, the entirety of existence is horrible flaming garbage right now, thank you for producing all the content you do and giving me something to laugh at

Ian Priest

The Imperial War Museum: A museum catered purely to British Boomer Dads

Ashley Krista

Thank you!

This?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdg9Y_ughIk

Jack Deeth

having consistent problems getting this to play due to tedious phone problems - doesn't like the embedded player. any chance you could also provide a link to the video or even just the video ID? otherwise I need to dig it out of the page source and fanny about a bit to watch!

I know what i'm doing today (Phineas & Ferb reference) 😉